Featured ANY INFO; LIKE AGE, WHERE FROM? ON ANTIQUE TOOLED LEATHER COVERED TRUNK

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by journeymagazine, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    This is one of my finds at the thrift store today (along with a very cool vintage Benoto race/road bike - for $49!), and I'm wondering how old it is & where it's from?
    The nails look hand forged to me, but I could be wrong.
    PS - Sorry for photos; it looked like it was going to rain hard so I took the photos while it was still in the van I brought it home in.
    Thanks in advance for any help!

    COLLECTIBLE TRUNK LEATHER COVERED 1AAZZ.jpg COLLECTIBLE TRUNK LEATHER COVERED 1AAAZZZZ.jpg COLLECTIBLE TRUNK LEATHER COVERED 2AAZZ.jpg COLLECTIBLE TRUNK LEATHER COVERED 3AAZZ.jpg COLLECTIBLE TRUNK LEATHER COVERED 9AAZZ.jpg
     
  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I have seen similar ones from Peru. Gaudy but nice.;)
     
  3. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    I thought Gaudy was Welsh! :hilarious:
    Just joking, Journey. ;)
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is the famous 'Gaudy Peruvian' style.:hilarious:
     
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  5. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

  6. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Do you think it is as old as one in your link 2manybooks? That one is colonial (late 1700's)?
    Do you need any more photos to tell it's age? Because that one sold for $6,000(!) and I got this one for only $39 today!
    Thank you guys - made my day!
     
  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I believe they still make similar ones in Peru, and this one doesn't look 18th century to me at all.
    But I honestly couldn't say if it is 19th or 20th century. We need our wood experts to take a look.
    @Ghopper1924 , @Jeff Drum , can you take a look please?:)
    I know it isn't early US, but @James Conrad , I'll tag you anyway.:playful:
     
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  8. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    I should have said Spanish colonial in style, so probably originating somewhere in the areas that were colonized by the Spanish. That is all I meant to say, based on the comparison. You did not post the dimensions. But another indicator of age might be the width of the boards used. They do not appear to be pieced, and if they are particularly wide they might indicate old growth wood.
     
  9. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I'll get measurements - as I said it's in my van waiting for clear skies.
    And if not old, then - it is what it is - but it did get my heart beating fast for a few moments so that was fun! (and I don't think I'll lose money at $39 even if not so old, right?)
     
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  10. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Outside my area, but my feeling is 20th century because of the metal work. Couldn't say which country but my guess is South America. Probably for the tourist trade. In any case, you may not sell it for $6,000, but you got a good deal.
     
  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Wood looks like cedar to me.
     
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  12. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    What do I measure?
    Trunk 31.5" x 16.5" x 16.5" & wood planks on bottom are 5" wide?
     
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  13. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Sun came out - and I was able to take better pics - hope these can help someone tell the age better.

    FURNITURE TRUNK LEATHER PERU COLONIAL STYLE 1AAZZ.JPG FURNITURE TRUNK LEATHER PERU COLONIAL STYLE 2AAZZ.JPG FURNITURE TRUNK LEATHER PERU COLONIAL STYLE 2A_AAZZ.JPG FURNITURE TRUNK LEATHER PERU COLONIAL STYLE 3AAZZ.JPG FURNITURE TRUNK LEATHER PERU COLONIAL STYLE 3BAZZ.JPG FURNITURE TRUNK LEATHER PERU COLONIAL STYLE 4AAZZ.JPG FURNITURE TRUNK LEATHER PERU COLONIAL STYLE 5AAZZ_aa.JPG FURNITURE TRUNK LEATHER PERU COLONIAL STYLE 6AAZZ.JPG FURNITURE TRUNK LEATHER PERU COLONIAL STYLE 7AAZZ.JPG
     
  14. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    Judging by the wood inside the trunk doesn't appear to be all that old. Looks like from the 40s era.
     
  15. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    I googled "Peruvian leather covered wooden trunk" to see if such items are still being made, or if there were any recent dated examples. The only boxes that looked like this one were all dated to the 17th and 18th centuries. The scalloped leather along the edges is a consistent characteristic.
    https://www.liveauctioneers.com/en-...-peruvian-leather-cedar-chest-flora-and-fauna
    https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/s...ated-dome-top-trunk-dated-1767/id-f_11109191/
    https://www.michaelbackmanltd.com/o...tooled-leather-wood-chest-with-iron-fittings/
    This last example notes "The manufacturing of items in decorative leatherwork was a flourishing trade in the viceregal era across South America. Leather-covered chests and trunks were among the items most typically made."

    I don't see any parts of the construction that would be inconsistent with a 17th-18th century date, but that does not mean old techniques did not continue to be used in South America. The bottom appears to be one solid board, but 16 1/2" is not exceptionally wide. On the exterior of the bottom panel it looks like there are saw marks left by a handsaw or pit saw, which would be another indication of age. It has been awhile since boards were ripped by hand.

    On the other hand, the colors look awfully bright to be a couple of centuries old.

    It does seem it might be worth having a specialist look at it.
     
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  16. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

  17. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    2manybooks - I saw those - and couldn't find any newer ones - any suggestions where I should take it to get it checked for age? Thank you & thanks all!
     
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  18. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    No idea where to take it, particularly during the pandemic. I believe you have had some dealings with some of the high end auction houses before. It might be worth a try to send them some photos.
     
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  19. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    That may be a great idea! Worse that can happen is they don't know or it's newer - thanks again
     
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  20. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I have an offer for $600 on ebay (I put it up for $650obo) - should I take it or wait to see if it's older/worth more? Honestly for what I paid I'm thinking of accepting the offer - but I trust the opinions here more than myself (ie look at all the factory paintings I buy thinking they were home runs!)
    Thanks guys
     
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