Anyone know what these are by the mark.

I have two candelabras with this marking on the bottom. I have looked online and think they may be Meissen, Sitzendorf or maybe Dresden. Any ideas.

 

I took the liberty of making your photos bigger so they're easier to see but it's still hard to make out the mark. Perhaps you can get some photos that are a little bigger and closer.

 

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This is about as close as I can get without it being totally blurry

 

Also the top of it can be taken off and it is actually two pieces.

 

It looks like a Minton mark. Minton marks have been copied so it needs to be compared. Porcelain Marks and More.com may have some of the fake marks to compare it to as well as the real marks. Can you post some close-ups of the details of your piece? That would also help to determine if it is a real Minton piece.

 

Full image?

 

Did you check this? http://antique-marks.com/meissen-marks.html

 

they're nice !

 

As an FYI, with mega pixel cameras, if you get as close as you can to the mark and take the pic, then crop it to just the mark, it will usually be large enough to see when loaded here.

 

You meant Meissen, I think?

 

I don't know that this will answer the question of who made it but there are a couple listed as "Meissen style" on these pages that might be similar to yours and some a little less similar listed as Meissen. It's hard to compare to your photo but you might be able to tell, having them in hand.

https://new.liveauctioneers.com/search?parameters={"pageSize":120,"page":1,"sort":"relevance","status":"archive","type":"pagination","count":429,"pagesize":120,"keyword":"meissen candelabra"}

 

Meissen?

Is there any fake meissen using cross swords?

 

Yes....I believe so......

 

Yes, in fact most crossed swords marks are fakes. In the case of Meissen the mark is the last thing to trust. I am not qualified to state whether the candlestick is real Meissen or not. I would note, though, that the bottom edge looks a bit rough. I would expect a Meissen piece to be much smoother. Close up of the details on the candlestick (e.g. the face, the flowers, the connector) might provide more clues.
Don