Brass Silver Candelabra Mystery #3 & #4

Below are two candleabras I am kindly looking for any infornation on. ❤

This 2nd one is definitely brass but I can't find any info on it or any similar online to compare.
Do you know anything about this piece?
How old it is? What it's worth?
Photos are as follows because it's alittle confusing at first glance
- face on
- from below
- from above the very top candlestick holder looking down, note the imperfections?
I paid $15 just as a fun tidbit I couldn't pass on it.

The first one is silver and I have no info on it either, any info helps! History or worth?
I paid $15 and I want to know if spray painting it would be an absolute crime or not hahah

 

Do either of them have marks? If so, you'll want to post good quality close-up photographs.

Debora

 

I forgot this photo of the silver one...
But, the brass one has no markings that I can find unfortunately.

❤

 

That looks like a maker's mark (and it's out of focus when viewed at a larger size.) Is there any marks that indicate it's silver?

Debora