Can someone help to identify this very large copper saucepan

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by Becky Barn Fresh, Aug 14, 2022.

  1. Becky Barn Fresh

    Becky Barn Fresh New Member

    Afternoon - i have bought this beautiful and very large copper pan - it has I C stamped on it and measures 38cm wide x 22cm high

    Any help would be wonderful

    Becky
     

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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Welcome, Becky! Where did you get it?

    May we see how the bottom is constructed please? Particularly where the side and bottom are joined?
     
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  3. Becky Barn Fresh

    Becky Barn Fresh New Member

    Attached some further photographs - bought from a friend - we both deal in Vintage and I loved the size of this
     

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  4. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    I love old copper pans!
    Yours has dovetailed construction, HERE is some info on that.
    HERE is some info on iron handles.
    Is it missing the tin lining?
    Also from vintagefrenchcopper.com:
    "...copper pans must be lined: cooking food produces acids that, with heat and prolonged contact, react with bare copper to produce toxic chemical compounds."
     
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  5. Becky Barn Fresh

    Becky Barn Fresh New Member

    It does look like the tin lining has been damaged - we do have people in Cornwall that repair that but I will most likely be selling this as display only
    Im most keen on identifying the maker or the relevance of the I C as that will help with future purchaser
    Becky
     
  6. Becky Barn Fresh

    Becky Barn Fresh New Member

    I too love copper pans - I once had a lovely interaction with a buyer on Ebay - it was a Leon Jaeggi pan and it was sent to a Mr Jaeggi - the gentleman that bought it believed he had made it - hope it was true !!
    Ive been reading the information you kindly shared, I think if it is dovetailed it would be pre 1900s and with a wrought iron handle ? Still cant find the I. C but maybe it was the households initials ? Becky
     
  7. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Dovetail pots,etc. are still made in a number of countries today... https://www.vintagefrenchcopper.com/identification/construction/all-about-dovetails/
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The same goes for forged iron handles. Handmade artisan pans for instance.
    Becky, you mentioned Cornwall, I imagine there are traditional craftspeople in Cornwall who make this type of pan.
    I have seen them here in the Netherlands, although not with that very triangular piece where the handle is attached to the pan. Rather pricey, but nice. I have French copper pans, but never use them anymore.
     
  9. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

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  10. Becky Barn Fresh

    Becky Barn Fresh New Member

    Now I have since been contacted to say the pan was lead lined and should not be used - I wouldn't sell it for anyone to cook in unless it had been relined professionally but is lead lining a thing for copper pans ?? It is not something Ive come across with my previous pan purchases .
    Becky
     
  11. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Lined with lead? I've not heard of that.
    They have been lined with tin for centuries. Very old tin lining appears a dull dark gray and can flake off. I have had a couple 100+ years old pots re-tinned by Rocky Mountain Retinning.
    Do you have more photos of the inside of the pan?
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    lined with lead?????/

    Why ?
    Did they offer any proof to back up such concerning statement ?
    is it chef Gordon Ramsey ???
    Are they a metallurgical specialist .......... or just some jerk !!!! ?????
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Ditto.
    Old lead in cooking utensils is usually in old glazes and enamels, not in the lining of copper pans.
     
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  14. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    If the pot had been lined using a high tin value solder, there still would have been a lead component. I think that's possible in the 19th C.

    Solder is essentially lead and tin but is available in an assortment of ratios, some with higher tin content than others. I think it is essentially pewter, that lead/tin combination. And there is plenty of pewter tableware. (I saw a TV show once where it was being used to make pipes for a church organ.)
     

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