Featured Chinese carved wood lacquered warriors - Please help identify their age

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by avant, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. avant

    avant Member

    Dear fellow antiquers,
    I will be very grateful if those of you specializing in Chinese antiques could help me identify the age of these figures - a pair of carved warriors/guardians, and a Weituo figure. All three are lacquered: the pair of guardians look guilded, Weituo has a thick reddish golden lacquer.

    I have inherited an antiques store (these were among the items) and working through its inventory to incorporate into my shop. Since I am only learning the ropes when it comes to Asian antiques (my areas are Middle Eastern antiques and antique printmaking), would very much appreciate any advice!

    Thanks a ton in advance!

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    Last edited: Dec 5, 2018
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  2. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

  3. avant

    avant Member

    Thank you!
     
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  4. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    (the right folks will be along, soon)
     
  5. Miscstuff

    Miscstuff Australia

    I'm wondering if they are chess pieces??
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    not unless that sharpie is an inch long....................:hungover::hungover::hungover:

    or the chess board is 6 feet wide !! :hilarious::hilarious:
     
  7. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    the weituo figure looks older than the two guardians i think.the cracks and paint looks good,i think it is not younger than 19th century (just my guess),can you show the base photos?thank you
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I am absolutely in love with the first one, it is gorgeous.
    As you said, it is Weituo, a guardian of Buddhist teachings. As such he is often found in monasteries.
    I think he and his friends were originally on altars, and are 19th century.
     
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  9. avant

    avant Member

    Thanks so much, all! I am attaching the base photos too, if you have any additional thoughts. The first picture is the base of Weituo, and the other is the pair of guardians.

    Although I am still new to the world of Chinese and Asian antiques, the craftsmanship of most things that I have encountered amazes me.

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  10. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    the weituo base looks old,it could be 18-19th century (i'm not a pro,just my guess).I think i have seen kind of statue with condition like that coming from 18th century.:bookworm:
     
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  11. avant

    avant Member

    Thanks so much Silver Wolf! This helps a lot!
     
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  12. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    btw,you've said above you are familiar with middle eastern antique,i have a silver kindjal dagger,can you check it?i'll post in new thread tonight :rolleyes:
     
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  13. avant

    avant Member

    Of course! Where can I see this dagger?
     
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  14. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    i think i'm too lazy to start a new thread :hilarious::hilarious:

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  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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  17. avant

    avant Member

    This is a truly beautiful dagger! Have you had it tested for silver content? The bone inlays are most likely camel bone. The stones look carnelian. As for its origin, I think this is an Omani dagger, of the al-Ganobi khanjar type.
    Also, here is a reliable article with some more details on this and other types of Omani daggers:
    http://khanjar.om/Types.html
     
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  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is nice, but it doesn't strike me as an Omani al-Ganobi khanjar.
    I don't know of any Omani (or Yemeni, related) daggers with that dainty floral finial at the tip. Or that glass? inlay (sorry, I'm not seeing carnelian). Moreover, Omani daggers have a central ridge on the blade.

    Maybe it is from India?
    @Silver Wolf , is that silvery metal silver or base metal?
     
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  19. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    i'm not yet test this silver content,but it has character of silver it easily get oxidized.And the stone i don't know is it carnelian,i think it looks like glass/synthetic stone.the seller said it was came from somewhere in central asia,what do you think?
     
  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Another possibility could be one of the Berber daggers, related to the Moroccan koummya. And Berbers will happily mount glass on silver, something I can't see the Omanis doing.
    These are koummyas:
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    Yours is different, the rings are asymmetric, and the pommel slightly more elegant. And the koummya has a different blade to yours, but it could be a relative, so to speak. Koummyas also have dainty finials.
     
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