Featured Chinese(?) dishes

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Willcpfc, Jan 2, 2021.

  1. Willcpfc

    Willcpfc Well-Known Member

    I have these two small dishes. Fairly sure they are bone china. No maker marks at all.

    If anyone can help with age and provenance it would be much appreciated. IMG20200813192546_compress26.jpg IMG20200813192602_compress29.jpg IMG20200813192607_compress59.jpg
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  2. MT Vessel

    MT Vessel Active Member

    Probably 20th C. (but could be earlier) Chinese but hard paste porcelain rather than bone china.
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  3. Dory64

    Dory64 Member

    Hi, five claws on the dragon so definitely Chinese. I've been told that the orangey look to the base rim shows it has some age, but not sure how old.
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  4. Willcpfc

    Willcpfc Well-Known Member

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  5. Sam Hills

    Sam Hills Member

    Does anyone know what a plate like this could be approximately worth?

  6. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    How many claws do you see?
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  7. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    I see 4
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    She clearly sees more than I do.:confused:
    The five claws were only for Imperial dragons, and these dishes don't strike me as being from the Imperial household.:confused:
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    This is a 5 clawed dragon, more precisely five toes to each claw, but this is what they mean by five claws:

  10. JayBee

    JayBee Well-Known Member

    Those dragons have only four claws, unless my eyesight is getting far worse than I thought.
    Also, dragons with five claws were reserved for pieces destined for the emperor(s) and the common people (anyone below the emperor) could have only depictions of dragons with four claws.
    Chinese antiques dealer explained that to me a long time ago, when I was living in China. There was more to it, but memory fails me.
    Edited: just realised Any Jewelry posted same.

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  11. Willcpfc

    Willcpfc Well-Known Member

    One foot with five claws. The rest no.

    And look at the face lol IMG20210104164006_compress52.jpg IMG20210104164021_compress59.jpg IMG20210104164058_compress53.jpg
  12. Dory64

    Dory64 Member

    I was sure I saw 5 claws but looking again I can only see 4. I read somewhere that 5 was Chinese and 3 was Japanese, 4 wasn't mentioned, sorry.
  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    What looks like a claw (without nail!) looks like a bit of ribbon from the pearl of wisdom it is trying to catch, there is a similar curl on the other side of the pearl.
    So that one also has four, not five.
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