Chinese export platter, blue and white, said to be 19th century

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  1. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    I did a lot of looking for this particular pattern but could not find it, can anyone give a better ID?

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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Are there no marks?
     
  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    i need help and Any Jewelry like this.
  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    With that yellowish white, the uneven glaze, and the design I would say Chinese inspired European, rather than Chinese Export. Very nice though.
     
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  5. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    Not one picture of the whole thing?
     
  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    And the back please.
     
  7. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    I have a picture of the entire plate, but the file was too large to download. I will work on this technical glitch.

    I did not go to that website. I went through nearly all the pics I saw on worthpoint but did not see anything like this. It looks like a walled part of the Imperial city.

    There was apparently no mark on the underside. Not sure if there was a pic or not. This is from an auction a few days ago in CT. I had to pass on this as I did not know much about this particular pattern,
     
  8. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Those Chinese walls were a hugely popular theme in Europe, along with pagodas, those half round bridges and people with parasols. And willows, of course.
     
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  10. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    that's the whole pic. I think it looks yellow in that one picture maybe because of flash or if they took the pic outside. They must have a picture of the back so hold on.
     
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  11. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Looks Brit to me.
     
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  12. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    anyjewelry: Can you explain what you mean about the uneven glaze? Am I supposed to be looking at the thickness here or what? I am new to this so uncertain what that term means. Can you show me what part of the photos are you referring to?
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    If you look at the way the light is reflected in this photo, you can see that the surface of the glaze isn't entirely flat:

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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That was my impression too.
     
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  15. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I think that's early 19th C Staffordshire made transferware. The confused botany is something of a clue, as is the colour. And the border.
     
  16. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    thanks for all this very helpful information.
     
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  17. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

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  18. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    the second platter you show there seems very common, I saw quite a few of those patterns on the worthpoint site.
     
  19. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Chinese porcelain and Chinese export porcelain are things I've tried to figure out with limited success. Every so often I join the Gotheborg Discussion Boards and try to find answers to a piece or other I've got around when I'm stumped.

    I think AJ was pointing out the sort of lumpy look of the surface on that platter. Some Chinese export have a lumpy surface they often refer to as orange peel. There are often patterns and shapes to European tastes often in a Chinese style.

    I can't say much with any certainty about the piece you show other than I do think it looks hand-painted.

    This has similar central elements though certainly not an exact match.

    https://www.carters.com.au/index.cf...s-export-ware-platters-chargers-and-ashettes/


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    A c.1800 Chinese export blue and white ashette, octagonal form, deep underglaze blue decoration of flowering urns within a fenced garden, a complex floral, scroll and panelled border, large crack and old re-sticking, previously held by old staple repairs. 32.7 x 25 cm
     
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  20. KEVIN AIREY

    KEVIN AIREY Well-Known Member

    Tip - paste picture on word and just copy paste onto forum.
     
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