Chinese? Japanese? Porcelain Bowl

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  1. Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures

    Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures Fancy Endeavours. That's my user ID on eBay now.

    Hello and Happy Saturday everyone!

    I have this little old porcelain bowl. Asian but from where? Can anyone tell me what the marks say and how old they think this bowl is? It's about 5" diameter and 2" tall.

    I appreciate any help!

    Juli

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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    This is a tough one. I can't tell which country the mark is from. And worse than that, it looks like the red "glaze" and the dark colored swirls on top of that were cold-painted on and not baked on like an actual glaze. There are too many chips and other loses for a quality piece. I don't think it's very old at all, just beat up.
     
  4. Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures

    Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures Fancy Endeavours. That's my user ID on eBay now.

    Thanks for responding! Yes, it has lots of wear to the decoration giving it an old look. I thought the darker "swirls" might be silver overlay. It does shimmer a little in spots.

    So, do you think it was decorated like that to just give the impression it had age?

    Would a closer picture of the mark help?

    Thanks again!

    Juli ChineseIronRedSilverBowl2.jpg
     
  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I was thinking silver for the dark swirls too. Is there any thickness to what's still there, or just thin like paint?

    I am not good at Chinese marks (which is what I was thinking these are.) @Dundun may be able to help?
     
  6. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    I was thinking Chinese at first glance, but the delicate calligraphy of the marks on the bottom make me think Japanese. Might not have been silver overlay, but more like a silver paint/wash type decoration that does wear quickly. I think first half 20th c.
     
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  7. Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures

    Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures Fancy Endeavours. That's my user ID on eBay now.

    No, there's no texture to the "Silver" paint. None of the individual characters of the mark can be deciphered?

    Thanks for the responses!

    Juli
     
  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    not every one has showed up yet............;)
    @Asian Fever
     
  9. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I don't recognize any of the 3 characters as Japanese, but that doesn't mean they are not Japanese. Let's see if @Mat can shed any light on them.
     
  10. anundverkaufen

    anundverkaufen Bird Feeder

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  11. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I'm not so sure, Anund. I really don't see a good match between the top characters or between the third either. Maybe it's just the ideosyncracies of Japanese handwriting, though.
     
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  12. Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures

    Savvy*Spyglass*Treasures Fancy Endeavours. That's my user ID on eBay now.

    Thanks for the debate! Guess I'll list it on eBay as an unknown and see if it garners any interest.

    I appreciate the help!

    Juli
     
  13. Dundun

    Dundun Member

    Comparing with 1033 in link from Anund, I guess the last character is the same one : 製. Zhi, which means ‘make/produce’.

    But I cannot tell the other 2 characters. :( so I am not sure it’s chinese bowl or Japan one.
     
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  14. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Thank you for looking, Dundun.
     
  15. Mat

    Mat Well-Known Member

    That is definitely early 20th c Japanese Kutani, the mark is , as often, poorly written, but I think it says "Watano sei", "Watano made"...
     
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  16. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Mat!
     
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