Chinese lizard vase

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  1. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I'm out in the hunt and having a really quiet day. Not found anything worth buying until the last shop I went in. Oxfam and they rarely have anything worth while. Then this appeared. 19th C at a guess. It looks like a lizard or dragon in high relief on the neck.

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  6. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    yeah mine was smaller almost miniature, sold alright though, 45 squid if i remember right
     
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  7. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Cool. Not sure whether to stick mine on eBay or try the auction house.
     
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  8. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Cool. The salamander seems applied rather than high relief, but it's just a word quibble.
     
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  9. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Ah. I thought the finished result rather than the technique dictated the nomenclature. Minor quibble but best to get it right. Thanks.
     
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  10. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    I dunno if high relief is wrong particularly, but it seems that if the design is complete and stuck on, it's applied; if it's not complete but partially raised, then it's relief, either low or high. Here's a definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/high relief So, Wedgwood could be considered low relief.
     
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  11. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    More confusion. I always thought low and high referred to the distance the raised bits projected out from the centre. It seems that it relates more to the extent of surface coverage of the said sticky out bits. I thought Jasper ware was applied slip ware :rolleyes:
     
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  12. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Oh dear, and here I thought to "elucidate." Relief in this context means that some decoration is above the surface. So, high relief you see more of the decoration (the site I quoted said about half of a decoration or object will be above the surface) and less on low relief. The salamder is a complete figure above the surface, so that's why I said applied. It was wrong of me to bring in Wedgwood, I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek. Wedgwood decoration is molded and then applied to the surface -- saw it done on The Great Pottery Throwdown.
     
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  13. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Yes I've seen the jasperware made too. So are relief objects applied or cut out of/into the existing clay?
     
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  14. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    There's a question. Maybe both?
     
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  15. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I'm trying to establish the difference between the definition of relief and applied. I'm struggling so I think I'll just use terms such as lumpy and sticky out in future.
     
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    kentworld Well-Known Member

    :hilarious:
     
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