Chinese White Metal Box Knife Box?

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by Nathan Lindop, Jan 30, 2019.

  1. Nathan Lindop

    Nathan Lindop 1: “?” 2: “!”

    Hi everyone!

    I've posted this is metalware. I don't know if it could be silver or silverplate. There are some marks and writing but I can't read Chinese or Japanese if that's the case.

    Im not familiar with the box shape, the only two circumstances were in a knife box and a letter/document holding box.

    Thanks for any help in advance :happy:

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  2. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    i need help likes this.
  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    nice box........ upload_2019-1-30_21-0-44.jpeg knife box.....
     
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  4. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Pretty sure Japanese silverplate. Size? Looks like it could be an odd form cigarette box.
     
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  5. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    The one item I always wanted was a set of knife boxes. Never ran into one that I could afford. Closest I came to a set was at a flea market. I almost had a fatal heart attack. I saw them and the price was 100 bucks for the pair. As I rushed over to nab them, the woman who was selling them was putting them into her car. A woman 15 minutes before I got there had purchased them.:oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops: After my heart attack I really began to cry.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
    greg
     
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  6. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Size would certainly be helpful, but it looks to me like a Japanese tea caddy in the form of a knife box - novelty tea caddies, thimble boxes, needle cases, etc., most often British, were produced in the shape of knife boxes, in wood, silver and other materials. This piece appears to be antimony, plated with copper, then silver plated, would guess dating to the late 19th - early 20th century...

    ~Cheryl
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2019
  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I couldn't find a tea caddy in this shape,
    & I couldn't find a knife box in metal.....

    & ya size does matter....
     
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  8. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member



    Silver - London, 1904 (1st image): https://www.carters.com.au/index.cfm/index/4445-tea-caddies-silver-and-silver-plate/?page=2

    Silver - Sheffield, 1909: https://auction.catawiki.com/kavels...-form-of-a-knife-box-sheffield-brook-son-1909

    Silver and tortoiseshell - London, 1906: https://www.tooveys.com/lots/361958...seshell-tea-caddy-in-the-form-of-a-knife-box/

    Tortoiseshell and silver - Sheffield, 1906: https://bid.tennants.co.uk/m/lot-details/index/catalog/50/lot/27709?url=/m/view-auctions/catalog/id/50?page=20

    Tortoiseshell - early 19th century: https://www.skinnerinc.com/auctions/2566B/lots/683

    Mustard tin - early 20th century: https://www.rubylane.com/item/169093-1482/Early-British-Colman-Bullx27s-Head-Mustard

    Biscuit tin - early 20th century: https://www.antiques-atlas.com/antique/crawfords_biscuit_tin_as_georgian_knife_box/as488a359

    ~Cheryl
     
  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Thank you Cheryl....... your searching skills are above my pay grade !!! :hilarious::hilarious:
     
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  10. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Could it be a biscuit tin?
     
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  11. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Could be a biscuit tin. There's a million novelty biscuit tins out there.
     
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  12. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    I thought about tea caddy but thought it might need to seal tighter than this appears to. A lot of conjecture here. Really need the OP to come back and communicate.
     
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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I've seen novelty biscuit tins like this.
     
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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    or not.........

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  15. Nathan Lindop

    Nathan Lindop 1: “?” 2: “!”

    Haha. I'm back. Nice job with all those examples @DragonflyWink. A few of them all mention it being a tea caddy in knife box form. So it's clearer now that that is going to be what it is.

    Also @gregsglass, your passion is endless. You should write a book about your antiquing experience
     
  16. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Again, perhaps you might share the size with us - a tea caddy would be relatively small, a biscuit bin larger...

    ~Cheryl
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2019
  17. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Japanese. Trademark similar to that shown in 4th row, 5th column, probably described exactly on previous pages of this site, but I’m required elsewhere and can’t look.

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  18. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Lozenge/diamond shaped marks are very common on Japanese metalwork, with numerous variations - unless the pictures are extremely misleading, this piece is not a tin...

    ~Cheryl
     
  19. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Here’s the mark after a little massaging.

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  20. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Seems like some ass-sumptions there, butt I won’t go there, maybe just wonder if a tin toy maker would never, ever make this object, or v/v?
     
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