Featured Coin help - inset into a wine taster

I just wanted to check if this looks like a genuine coin set into the wine taster or if it is just a token made for the job? It's 38.2mm diameter, can't see the milling due to the mount - tests as silver. The wine taster does appear to be of period, a little later than the coin date - also is it Spanish or from the colonies? Tia.

 

Charles IV was king of Spain at the time, so that fits, but that IIII is weird. It's the way they did it on the "Real" coins though apparently. No idea if it's a real Real or a copy.

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ae...les_efef_mexico_mint_1807/531500/Default.aspx

 

They usually used old coins for items like this, so it is difficult to tell the age. Can we see the entire taster?

 

Yes, my bad forgot to attach it.

 

It is charming, Ce. I would guess ca 1840s, which would fit in with the use of an old coin.

 

MEE LIKE!!!!! Similar.....or just VERY less worn.....

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Thanks, so it's a Mexican minted one?

 

It should have a mint mark. According to internet... the coin was struck at : Mexico, Lima, Bogotá, Guatemala, Potosi, Santiago, Popayan, and Cuzco mints...

Debora

 

You can find a list of mint marks here.

https://www.newworldtreasures.com/cointypes.htm

Debora

 

Ty, Mexico it is then.

 

M or M with an o above? Is that it between "Rex" and "8R"?

Debora

 

M with an 'o' above, and yes between the Rex & 8R

 

Yes, then México. México D.F. to be specific.

Debora

 

To the best of my knowledge tasses de vin don't incorporate genuine coins. But they're a common decorative motif.

Debora

 

Many thanks, so it may well be a 'token' piece. There are other examples of similar wine tasters referenced as early/mid 19th century, so that does fit with the age. The coin has a nick handily and is silver throughout.

 

@daveydempsey, I know when a coin is used like this it loses its value as a coin.

Does having a genuine coin set in something like this give it more value than using a forged coin? Just wondering

 

Tastevin.