Featured Date and Region of this Set Back Cupboard??

Discussion in 'Furniture' started by SeaGoat, Oct 26, 2017.

  1. SeaGoat

    SeaGoat Well-Known Member

    I finally, (FINALLY!), found a small cupboard for my kitchen that wasnt over priced and/or rickety.

    It was actually at an estate sale put on by a local company who is not in the least familiar with antiques.
    I actually went to the sale after a old farm table, walked in and bought 4 total pieces of furniture :wideyed::nailbiting::joyful:

    Anyways, this piece is SOLID and can withstand daily use.
    there is no sway or sagging, the doors dont feel like you have to hold your breath as you open it..

    Im excited to get it clean and put in place!

    Its not terribly heavy, but its not huge either.
    Less than 6'.
    Im 5'2" and cant see over it, maybe between 5'6-5'8" tall.

    Anyone have any tips on how to hide the "nicks" in the wood (Howards?)

    How old do you think this piece is?
    Northern piece or southern?
    What kind of wood do yall think it is?

    Sorry the pictures are a bit dark, I had to wait for my son to get off the bus to help me unload it :)rolleyes:) and by that time the sun is moving away from the dining room.

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  2. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Oh what a gorgeous cabinet ! Perfect size to boot ! Im just guessing here,but I think it might be 1850s-60s ,maybe pine. Brad will know so wait for him to chime in. I just love this piece .
     
  3. patd8643

    patd8643 Well-Known Member

    Interesting piece, mixed woods, some may have been replaced. Do the hinges look replaced? The lock looks like it was installed upset down from normal.
    Patd
     
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  4. patd8643

    patd8643 Well-Known Member

    And looks like the raised panels are on the inside.
    Are they on the outside, too?
    Patd
     
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  5. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Interesting piece for sure. Doesn't fit with what I know about factory furniture so think it a country carpenter piece. It is so odd that there is the possibility that this is a newer piece made from old materials and hardware. Just looks too uniform to be truly old.
     
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  6. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Not my thing, but I love it. I think johnny's right: mid-19th century pine. Beautiful details. I can't say whether or not it's a "Frankenstein," i.e. something newer made from older parts, but if so they did a nice job with it!
     
  7. SeaGoat

    SeaGoat Well-Known Member

    The panels are only chamfered on the inside..

    I dont think it's a reinvented piece only because of the patina through out..
    It has that "thick" buildup like you see on old dough bowls that lends to that certain "look" of a buttery glow.

    I saw a similar piece in one of my books.
    I'll try and track it down..

    The house had several pieces that were about this age..
    I bought all but one piece (a table top chest they wanted a little much for for its condition), Ill post the rest later today
     
  8. Iowa Jayhawk

    Iowa Jayhawk Well-Known Member

    Whoever did it knew what they were doing. I agree that it might have been ground up restored or rebuilt from parts. Not seeing the usual gaps found in pine from that vintage. Pine shrinks a lot as it ages.
     
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  9. SeaGoat

    SeaGoat Well-Known Member

    These dont exactly match, the shaker piece has a drop down work area and the new england pieces have singular doors on the bottom.

    The black and white is from my shakers book
    The colored is from Antique Country Furniture of North America and details of its construction

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  10. LIbraryLady

    LIbraryLady Well-Known Member

    I bet you are glad you waited to buy. This is a charmer.
     
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  11. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yeah, i agree, guy who built it was not in on the latest in philly or new york but that is typical of country work.

    Yes, probably is, southern yellow pine/hard pine it looks like, mid 19th century. It's called a "step back" cupboard on east coast USA.
    No, it is not Shaker.
     
  12. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    I love it! It's beautiful and adorable at the same time!
     
  13. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!! Pick up one of those stain sticks/pencils in the hardware or LOWES or Home Depots.....close to the same color and just rub it into whatever nick or scratch you may get......THAT IS JUST SO DELICIOUS!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!:):happy::):happy:
     
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  14. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    2nd half 19th century
    I'd guess southern because it appears to be southern yellow pine
    Yellow pine, sometimes called longleaf yellow pine, heart pine or pumpkin pine & VERY much in demand for flooring, interior trim these days. You can't buy this pine "new" anymore, it comes from reclaimed barns, houses, etc and therefore, very pricey.
    http://www.appalachianwoods.com/Heart-Pine-History.htm
     
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  15. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    I do not think this step back cupboard is built new from old timber, it's just to "rough" or rustic for that & part of it's charm. It's a country piece & was built for utility back in the day, if it was "new" & built from old growth yellow pine, it would look like this.

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  16. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    BTW, if you have to ask what it costs for old growth heart pine for floors or cabs these days, YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT. It's very expensive, right up there price wise with the "exotic" species of wood.
     
  17. SeaGoat

    SeaGoat Well-Known Member

    There is business here in my gotten called Georgia Reclaimed, dealing in old wood is all they do.

    They take out old flooring and old barns, kiln dry it and resell it.

    Im fortunate to already have the flooring in my house, all except the kitchen.
    I fear the day I get a price quote on that :eek:


    What lends it to not being shaker?
     
  18. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    The joinery, with Shaker, it would be "perfect".
     
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    James Conrad Well-Known Member

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  20. SeaGoat

    SeaGoat Well-Known Member

    Who...
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