Dating 3 Capodimonte putti

Hello

i'd like to date these 3 Capodimonte porcelain Putti, by the related mark .

Height : cm 9

Thanks

 

Gianluca, I'm not sure I'd call the 2 kneeling figures "putti". They seem to be fully clothed, and I would call them children (a boy & girl) praying. I can see calling the 3rd figurine a putto.

 

You're right, and in fact seeing well the children in buy with the putto, I seem to notice a difference in porcelain: the putto has a very light grey/white shade, while the children have a pure white shade

I bought them as a lot, but I think I understand that the Putto is not connected to children, even if all three elements are porcelain.

I'd like to date them, I cleaned them, they were a little dirty previously, and they're probably pretty old, but I think I need your help for a more precise dating.

 

The first and third look to me like they were part of a nativity scene, likely 20th century. And the one in the middle lacks the "boy parts" that a putto should have. To me none of them look "pretty old."

 

Thanks ....
next the auction house it was written Capodimonte late 19th century porcelain figurines .... I realize that often they are wrong, (that's why i'm asking for a date here) but I did not expect such a large time interval compared to your impression
: - / :-(

 

True Capodimonte was 18th century, not 19th, so their statement was already suspect.

 

excuse me i dont get you as well, do you mean that Capodimonte didn't produce porcelain in the 19th Century ?

 

Anything made after 1759 is true Capodimonte, even if made in Naples. This crowned N mark shows up regularly on much more recently made items with absolutely no connection to the original factory. And it seems in the world of "decorators" that any ceramic item with abundant applied flowers is referred to as "Capodimonte" regardless.

 

I checked on Wikipedia and you're right, it was sold in 1806.
But what I do not understand is why there are hundreds of announcements and auctions, even estimated online auctions websites, not only eBay that are selling Capodimonte 19th century.

 

Because the name "sells" and a lot of people fall for it.

 

Ok thanks so much, I was one of that fishes I guess .. lol.
Ok I'll just use them on Christmas

 

One question please, I find a list of Capodimonte sculptors of XX Century... Maybe on XX century it borned back?
Thanks

 

Where is this list?

 

Cappè
Volta
Scaggiari
Rory
Armani
Sartori

It's a list that I collected searching 'maestri Capodimonte' or 'ceramisti Capodimonte' or 'Capodimonte firmato' and many results are related to that sculptors names and they are all Capodimonte artists of the XX century

 

Wow it's equal. I'll check t tomorrow, now I'm outdoor. Thanks a lot

 

About that list of "Capodimonte" sculptors -

If your purpose is to collect antiques, do not buy these. None of them is in any way associated with the original factory. Their use of the name "Capodimonte" for the wares they produce is strictly a marketing strategy for what amounts to "collectibles." The figurines they produce are made "in the tradition of" or "as an homage to" a factory that has not been operating since 1759. As I said before, the name "sells" and people fall for it. If you want to buy some for your own enjoyment, fine. But do not expect a monetary windfall in the near future.

 

Ok, thanks so much for your precious info

 

Hello @i need help ,
no, i cannot see 1710 incised .
If ever, in which point should it be ?