Dating 5 marked dishes

Hello friends,

as you all know, some time ago I bought a large lot of silver, bronze, metal, wood, but also dozens and dozens of porcelain and ceramics, including dishes, statuettes, vases, centerpieces, tureens, cups, etc.

There are many dishes, almost all marked on the bottom, and I would like to have fun with you in attributing a correct dating, depending on the pattern of the mark.

By arranging dozens of dishes, through your help,

I will be able to catalog and segregate all dishes by date and country.

For me it is a help, for you I hope also a fun, I have no experience with porcelain and ceramics, and I thank you in advance for your valuable expertise.

This evening I bring to your attention this first batch of 5 dishes, if you like the concept, then I will propose other lots.

 

Think the Coalport one with the wavy edge is called Indian Tree.

 

There are 3 Coalport - the 2 blue floral and the India Tree center of the bottom row. Coalport is from England, but the 1750 date on the bottom is NOT that date these were made, but rather the date when the company was established.

 

yes yes of course,
do you know in which period that Coalport pattern was made ?
Thanks

 

thanks, really useful

 

According to this site (a very good one for researching English marks) the Coalport mark on your 3 pieces was used post-1891 and until about 1920's.

http://www.thepotteries.org/mark/c/coalport.html

 

On the same site, Tuscan is by R.H. & S.L Plant, this mark 1907 and after.

 

William Whiteley was a retailer who owned shops in Westbourne Grove from 1875 to the 1920s, I think.

 

yes, i have found the trademark

https://www.antiques-atlas.com/antique/sheraton_style_inlaid_cabinet_by_william_whiteley/as243a370

 

but i dont understand which is the connection of H&C France with William Whiteley UK

 

William Whiteley's Limited was the owner of a chain of department stores/ In case you are unfamiliar with the term "department store" it is a retail shop selling a wide variety of goods organized into "departments." Tableware and other household items, both useful and decorative; clothing, accessories and shoes; bedding and bath linens; artworks, etc. In the case of this plate, Haviland and Co was the maker and Whiteley the retailer. Retailers often ordered goods with their own name included with the maker as a marketing device.

Here is an article to read about the history of the company. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Whiteley_Limited

 

Ahh that's why, I understand now. So nice to learn from this great forum. Thanks a lot later I'll post a second batch of plates

 

forgive my ignorance, these plates are made of porcelain or ceramic?

 

I am just as ignorant, but ceramics includes all of it. The question is, is it pottery or porcelain. Porcelain is translucent, so hold a plate up to the light and see. The Haviland should be porcelain; Coalport not.

 

Thanks

 

The mark on the Haviland & Co saucer was used from 1888 - 1896. I looked through the 5 pattern ID books authored by Arlene Schleiger but I was unable to find your pattern. The following link has information on the various Haviland companies as well as more info on Schleiger Numbers in the Identification page. You can see your mark on the Backmarks page, it is Mark H.

http://www.havilandonline.com/index.htm

 

Very nice website and very interesting info, thanks a lot