DID I FIND A PICASSO PENCIL SIGNED PENCIL SKETCH?

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  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    My thrift store find today!

    1) It looks like a Picasso signature to me
    2) There is no pixels when I look at it with a magnifying glass
    3) The back of the frame has the framer's stamp with a phone number but no area code, making me believe this is older & before lithos that wouldn't have pixels if just a print
    4) The way it's framed with the extra space on the side - maybe for a coa?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    AA ART PRINT PICASSO 1AA.JPG AA ART PRINT PICASSO 2AA.JPG AA ART PRINT PICASSO 3AA.JPG AA ART PRINT PICASSO 4AA.JPG AA ART PRINT PICASSO 5AA.JPG
     
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  2. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    Looks more like a Dali in Siggie and subject. Not saying it is though.
     
  3. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I think you mean Dali.

    Florida has had a ton of issues with fraudulent Dali prints. I first knew of the issues in the 1980s.

    Doesn't mean it isn't worth checking out.
     
  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    please......that a Dali signature.....

    :rolleyes:

    Dali-Fake-siggy.jpg
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    OH....I don't mean to say it's authentic....................or not !!
     
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  6. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I did mean Dali - sorry, and thanks.
    Should I open the back?
    Any idea of age with the back stamp - and were they making the counterfeits back then?
     
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  7. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I saw 10 different examples of his signature - not saying it is; but he didn't have 1 style signature did he?
     
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  8. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    image.jpg This one is supposed to be genuine but they did differ a lot.
    Your picture is called Soft Telephone 1968. I haven't been able to copy it, sorry.
     
  9. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Sorry komokwa - I didn't realize you meant me calling it a Picasso by mistake; I was typing above as yours came up
     
  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    Soft Telephone print...........
     
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  11. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Should I take off back?
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    i don't think you'll find anything there that would authenticate it....
     
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  13. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I'm curious what's under the mat. The framing makes no sense unless the other part needed to be preserved but not shown. Maybe it's a preliminary sketch.
     
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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Ta, go ahead and take it out....the mat is full of acid anyways...
    if there's something else there ...it's being soaked in acid all over..!
     
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  15. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    I saw my first "Dali" and "Picasso" prints during an exhibition that was presented over a few days at my university art center. The prints cost from $10-$30-up in mid-1970s. I could not afford to buy one.

    I have no idea if they were "real" or not?
     
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  16. chantaljones

    chantaljones Well-Known Member

    Dali was also known for selling Blanco sheets with only his signature on it. And in a later period they produced prints and such on those Blanco sheets. Bit dodgy but that's what he did to make some extra cash
     
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  17. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Any idea why they framed it as they did? I thought maybe to put a coa next to it or something similar? Just want to ask to be sure it's not something unique that I am hurting by taking apart.
    Thanks for all the info!
     
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  18. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    Anything that comes with a COA is immediately suspect to me.:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
    greg
     
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  19. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

  20. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Any idea why they framed it as they did?

    I have a native print framed in a similar fashion.
    I believe it was just a novel framing style...and made the framer more money..
    but,,,
    it is also possible the artist used a much larger paper......and the framer or whomever , did not want to trim the original sheet..!

    cheechee1.jpg

    No one in their right mind would trim this Chee Chee........but i could see a framer....matting over the top half...
     
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