Featured Do These Leaves Have a Symbolic Meaning?

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  1. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    Hello all,

    As I am moving, a few things are going into storage or being sold. My mother asked to see anything I wasn’t sure about, and flagged this mug.

    I purchased it from a charity shop to hold the pens on my desk and never gave it a second thought, but - as forget-me-nots have symbolic meaning - I now wonder: do the leaves below it also? Of course plants and herbs go in and out of fashion, and the meaning changes too, so I hoped someone here might recognise the style and be able to identify where/when it was made, which might explain the motif. My mother thinks that the blue flowers are for remembering a lost loved one, and I think they are more romantically aimed at the living. Does the second set of leaves decide it?

    Edit: cannot seem to get rid of the last image. Hmm. Never mind, you can ignore it as necessary.

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  2. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    I wonder if it’s a shaving scuttle?
    But wait for others.
    Maybe acanthus leaves?
     
  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    have a safe move !!!!:happy:
     
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  4. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    Thanks K! :)
     
  5. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    My mother thinks it’s Coriander... but the only meaning I could find for that was “venerie” ;) :p
     
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  6. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    It's sweet. No size given, but considering your use for it, it's likely as already suggested, a shaving mug. Sometimes a flower is just a decorative devise, but if it was intended to impart meaning, a forget-me-not was usually a reminder to not forget the giver (it's actually pretty common on shaving mugs since they were a common gift for men from their ladies or family) - the border of acanthus is one of the endless variations on the motif, which dates back to ancient times.

    Was the base broken off and glued back on?

    ~Cheryl
     
  7. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    So the vote is for acanthus! Well if I sell it (unlikely given my mother’s interest) I’ll pop that in the description, though a shame it’s not something with more of a tradition behind it :) I googled scuttles, and there are a few with forget-me-nots and oak leaves indicated remembrance and longevity, but this is perhaps too cheaply made for the same attention to design. There is a sizeable crack at the base and plenty of chips, but the crack doesn’t go all the way around luckily, so the base has never come away :p
     
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  8. Bdigger

    Bdigger Well-Known Member

    Does anybody else think this could be majolica?
     
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  9. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    I think it likely is, though it could be copied from an older item? My minimal reading-up suggests that majolica is still made today but the copies are not executed so well and aren’t considered “real”. Either way, I know Victorians loved putting symbolism into commercial items so thought it was worth the ask, in case anyone recognised it as a copy :)
     
  10. pixieforpapa

    pixieforpapa Member

    Look up the cilantro plant...that’s where they get the coriander (& seeds) from. I think I agree with your mother.
     
  11. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Well-Known Member

    It very much resembles coriander to me too, but the only “meaning” I could find for coriander is “lust” because it was considered an aphrodisiac! I don’t have any books on flower symbolism so I thought I’d ask here, as so many later Victorian objects use flowers in this way :)
     
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