Does anyone know these pewter marks? William & Mary souvenir?

It's marked WM and England, so it's not horribly old. I'm thinking some sort of souvenir ware or something made to look like it came from their reign. The handles on the porringer (quaiche - sp) are two crowns and they were co-monarchs. The whole thing is about 8 inches edge to edge of the crowns. I'm just trying to figure out if it was somebody's souvenir of a trip to the UK or if it came from the William & Mary book store. The WM mark looks like it has a Tudor rose.

 

I know I have seen that row of 4 marks before.

 

Found them, but other than British since 1635, not much help.

Scroll down to the British examples on this page. https://web.archive.org/web/20101128112457/http://pewtertankardsflagons.com/index.php?p=1_2_-Marks

I looked on that site in the section with names starting with W and did not find it.

 

I did find something with the mark and they were told it was likely Winterthur Museum reproduction but I didn't find this as a mark just doing a quick look.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Po...421775?hash=item3b45298e4f:g:r7IAAOSwUuFWxA~3

 

Certainly possible. OTOH the listing claims it might be silver... which I be leave to doubt. Anything marked England that was silver would be hallmarked.

 

Found this on the web, not much help though apparently the rose and thistle on one stem are the badge of Queen Anne. I actually have some pewter books but don't know if they have anything new-ish. I'll look when I have a chance.

From:
The Pewter Collector: A Guide to English Pewter with Some Reference to Foreign Work
By
Henri Jean Louis Joseph Massé
H. Jenkins, 1921 - 300 pages
https://books.google.com/books?id=4...peBt0Q6AEwDnoECAwQMg#v=onepage&q=wmec&f=false

 

That's a Tudor rose, so it makes sense since the other flower shown is a thistle. Queen Anne and Queen Mary were sisters from the Stuart line. Looks like my William and Mary guess was either right or close.

 

Hi
I can answer this for you.This is a 5 1/4 quaich bowl made by my family company.
The marks are indeed William and Mary as per illustration above.The 4 hall marks are left to right ,initials of the craftsman that made the item next is the Griffin a Bristol mark where the company started in 1779 ,the third three stars representing 3rd generation at that time ,later to become 3 shells denoting items being made near the coast .the last is an obscured would have been a W out surname .We still use that touch make which now reads first AE second Griffin third 3 shells 4 still W .
This is the name of the Company AE Williams
Made in Birmingham England .We produced thousands of these for the Scottish and world market over the years ,they came in 3 sizes.
It was a traditional gruel bowl but used today as a traditional Scottish wedding gift both the Bride & Groom sip from it at the time of marriage.more info contact me dwilliams68@hotmail.co.uk.Videos on YouTube AE williams pewter making website pewtergiftware.com aewilliamspewter.com.
I am one of the family members still making pewter in the traditional way and have been for 55 years hope this helps you.
David Williams

 

Hi David and welcome! Thank you so much for the information!

 

The little bowl went up on Ebay last year and went to a happy new home. The info will definitely come in handy for next time! There can't be too many traditional pewterers left.