Featured Dutch Pen and Pencil Drawing

Discussion in 'Art' started by Ren_, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. Ren_

    Ren_ Member

    Hello,
    Could someone please help me learn more about this drawing of a canal in Amsterdam? I cannot make out the artist's name or the canal name (maybe Prinsengracht?). I am also curious about when it would have been drawn. From the back it looks like it was removed from a book or it was glued to a page. Any insight would be appreciated.

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  2. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I think you nailed the location.

    Westerkerk and Prinsengracht canal temp01.jpg
     
  3. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    You and Jivvy are right. The Westerkerk seen from the Prinsengracht. The view that makes every Amsterdammer emotional.;)
    I can't read the signature, sorry.
    On the back it says de Vries, a Dutch surname but not the name of the artist. Then there is p/a which means c/o, and a street, which could be Warmoesstr. 21 or 121. One of them is a club and the other a bar, the Warmoesstraat is a notorious street in Amsterdam.
    The numbers mean nothing to me, except for the 9.50, which looks like the price.
    It could have been made by a street artist.
     
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  5. Ren_

    Ren_ Member

    Thanks, that is definitely the view!
     
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  6. Ren_

    Ren_ Member

    Thank you! Great info about the back. The signature is really hard to make out, not even sure what letter it starts with. Any idea of the age?
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    No cars, but hand carts. If it is not copied from an older drawing or photograph, it could mean pre-car era or possibly during WWII.
     
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  8. Ren_

    Ren_ Member

    It was purchased in an antique shop around 60 years ago so WWII could be right. Thanks for your help! :)
    The clock face looks different but I can't find anything about it changing. Maybe just artistic interpretation.
     
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  9. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Could you try again on a photo(s) of the sig? The current one is too blurry for me.
     
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  10. Ren_

    Ren_ Member

    IMG_2840(2).jpg IMG_2840(2).jpg
    Hi Jivvy, I've attached a couple more pics. Unfortunately it is signed in pencil so it's a bit smudged and I can't upload high res :(
    Does it look like Schumann for the first name? Thanks for your help.
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Frankly I don't know. There are Dutch names which could look like Schumann, like Schuurman or Schuurmans, do you think that could be it?

    I'll see if I can find something on the clock face, but as you said it could be an artistic interpretation.
     
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  12. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I see no possibility for "schumann", but signatures are completely weird and it could totally be "schumann" (though, "shumann" would be more believable to me).

    My take is very different as I see the first letters as "Hur" and everything beyond that is very much scribbly (please don't read too much into MY scribbles, I just post them to show how differently one signature can be read by two people).

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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    So do I. But I haven't a clue.
     
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  14. Ren_

    Ren_ Member

    Very cool, and makes sense. :) thanks for taking the time to illustrate.
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I searched for the history of the clockface, but couldn't find any evidence of a change. I did see enough photos of the tower (Westertoren) to last me a lifetime.:playful:
    Well, it is beautiful, and the people of Amsterdam are very proud of it:
    https://www.studiokoning.nl/Foto_15/Westertoren.html
     
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  16. Ren_

    Ren_ Member

    Thank you Any Jewelry, much appreciated. It is very beautiful. I'm happy to have a little drawing of it. :)
     
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