Featured Dutch Spoon

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  1. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    EC81000D-EE4C-4FFA-9A55-165F8D1EB7C4.jpeg 70A0E23D-60E7-481B-A98C-D04B8BDBB1BE.jpeg Hi Everyone,

    I just ordered this spoon. I don’t expect anyone to be able to tell the maker. The Seller thought its JH. I see an M or W.
    Anyway I will try to figure that out when I receive it.

    Can anyone say anything about the other marks, please. I did try, but those letters made me nuts. Also doesn’t the head look off?

    Thank you for looking!:shame:
     
    i need help, Dec 23, 2019
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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    See example B and the notes for it below. https://www.925-1000.com/Fnetherlands_Date_Code.html

    The date letter is the script K - 1819! An oldie!

    I cannot see what is in the top-most punch. Is that where the seller said the letters JH appear (and where you see a W or an M?
     
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  3. i need help

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    Thank you Bakers, (I thought so, but I didn’t want to be disappointed.)
    Please don’t stress over the makers marks. When I receive I will try to get better photos. I am very pleased, so far.
     
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  4. i need help

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    C69DAC71-8EFC-45A2-9771-A94A91A04ED6.jpeg I was looking this way. I tried to lighten it.
     
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  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Huh. Looks like 3 little letters. But I agree with your plan - wait until you can take your own pictures.
     
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    :)
     
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  7. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    That mark is a real 'toughie.....I think the 'W' is plain enough.....but the other two....seems anybody's guess.....might need to wait until you have it in hand.....I couldn't do ANY better than what you have ......"could" "MAYBE" be a "J".... Pretty, though!!!!!

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    Thank you, Aqui!
    I will have to be patient, until I get it. Just glad to know it’s an oldie! :)
     
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  9. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Think you might see better when you get it, with a loupe....
     
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    77BA79B8-8A2C-46F6-B499-752741DB031F.jpeg This is a better photo of the design, in case anyone who is Dutch recognizes it. ;)
     
    i need help, Dec 24, 2019
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  11. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Lion Passant with #2 under it is, I think, the Dutch mark for 830 silver. Or something like that. Lion Passant with #1 underneath is for Sterling.
     
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is a beauty, inh, very nice detail.:happy:
    Probably 2 little letters with a symbol at the top, that is what Dutch maker's marks of the period usually look like.
    You talking to me?:playful:
    Love the shape. It is a shape you don't see that often, so good choice.
    The spoon's shape and decoration are very much Dutch Empire style. Dutch Empire is a Classic Revival style, the modest sister of the French Empire style. Think Napoleon I era and the following years.
    Empire is pronounced the French way, ahmpéér.:D

    Looking forward to your own photos.:)
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

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    For this period Lion Passant with #2 is .833, Lion Rampant with #1 is .934, slightly higher than sterling.:)
     
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    Thank you for the information, AnyJewelry. :) I know I SAID I will wait patiently, but I’m really not! :hilarious:
    Just so curious, it should be here Saturday. :nailbiting: 200 years old, will be my oldest piece. :joyful:
     
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  15. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    LOL! OK I was off by a bit! :p
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    So many silver marks, impossible to remember them all.:)
     
    Any Jewelry, Dec 25, 2019
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    4E7FBBA6-6ECA-41B2-9A96-F2F6F85DB4F7.jpeg 8E07E6A4-ABC1-4498-9608-A3E285F9AEF3.jpeg
    Very difficult to photograph, and I’m not sure of proper orientation.
    I will try to get some better when there’s more light here, it’s cloudy.
     
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    The Minerva seems to have a D or a P. Maybe someone can tell me the town?
    Or is that a sideways 4? Very Frustrating! :rage:
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  19. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Could also be a sideways A?
     
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    Could be, is there a chart I can compare with for the Minerva’s?
     
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