EAPG? Tulip & Heart Beaded Pattern name, please

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  1. gauntlettgems

    gauntlettgems Well-Known Member

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    I think these are older EAPG from the feel of the construction I cannot find the pattern anywhere Does anyone recognize it?

    Thank you for the help
     
  2. flipper

    flipper Striving to face adversity with tact and humor

    http://www.eapgs.org/index.php
    I tried a couple different search terms and combinations but it did not yield anything useful for me....maybe for you? Pattern IDs by different search criteria
     
  3. gauntlettgems

    gauntlettgems Well-Known Member

    I always try to exhaust all of those things before I ask here. I don’t want to bother too much as I have so much to learn. I was wondering if there was a specific term for the beading that is surrounding the hearts
     
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  4. i need help

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  5. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    @gauntlettgems
    wondering if there was a specific term for the beading that is surrounding the hearts

    Try stippled.

    Not sure it is an EAPG pattern.
    Is the bottom ground?
     
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  6. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

    is there something embossed on base ring at 9 o'clock (center left) 2nd image
     
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  7. gauntlettgems

    gauntlettgems Well-Known Member

    How do you tell. It did kind of remind me of some things that I’ve seen are ground
     
  8. gauntlettgems

    gauntlettgems Well-Known Member

    I’ll check but I swore I did not see anything. I’ll check back in later when I’m home
     
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  9. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Not sure I can explain it.
    It will be flat as if the whole bottom was sawed off. It may or may not be polished.
    Molded will be sort of rounded as it came out of the mold. It will have the same finish as the rest of the plate.
     
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  10. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    Have you given it a black light test? It doesn't look like EAPG to me. It looks like the type of glass widely available in the 1980s.
     
  11. George Nesmith

    George Nesmith Well-Known Member

    Looks Indonesian to me.
     
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  12. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    Yep, I can get behind that comment. If that's the case with this, the pattern may not be important due to the relatively low value (assuming you were asking for resale purposes). It costs as much as they're worth to ship the plates.
     
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  13. gauntlettgems

    gauntlettgems Well-Known Member


    Indonesian? Never would have thought of that. I thought they were really old but I am no good at glass. I’ll try the black light I didn’t know clear could glow also. I have not had a chance to revisit the underside yet but I will. I am trying to identify them for resale

    ty guys so much for your help!
     
  14. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    For what it's worth, I took a look through a couple of my "go to" EAPG books (Metz and McCain), and came up with zilch. :(
     
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  15. gauntlettgems

    gauntlettgems Well-Known Member

    Ty! I’m sure I’m wrong about the EAPG. they just gave me that feel when I held them.
     
  16. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

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  17. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Tall Cakes asked if it was marked. Think he was referring to this.
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  18. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

    as others have noted; my first thought was looks like one of the contemporary attempts at replicating a lacy sandwich glass wannabe. KIG (Kedaung Industrial Group) does come to mind but most of their goods are marked. That's partially why I asked if perhaps that was an embossed mark of some kind; tho' it does look to possible be a reflection of the beaded pattern. Will note that Indiana Glass did have a somewhat similar tulip motif in one of the sandwich pieces, but this is not that.
     
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  19. gauntlettgems

    gauntlettgems Well-Known Member

    @i need help bubble for sure

    @clutteredcloset49 only reflection and now I see the bottom rims are not ground They feel rounded

    the scalloped edges have a seam which I thought was odd

    They are cure no matter what they are
     
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