Featured Eastern Europe 1951 watercolor Gypsy old woman signed..??

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Can you read the name of this painter..?? Is he reknown..??

  1. Which part of Eastern Europe this painting comes from..??

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  2. Some details of the Subject Please...Dress,Country folklore,Region..??

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  1. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Here is a watercolor from Eastern Europe dated 1951.
    Not sure about the origin of this Painter and the exact Subject details.
    For me ..It does look as a Gypsy old Woman from..???
    The signature and date as well..A mystery..??
    If you can help and give me your Thoughts about it..??
    Big Thanks
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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Is it framed? What does the frame look like? Anything on the back?

    Debora
     
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  3. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    No frame..Nothing on the back...Thanks
     
  4. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    What is it painted ON....canvas or another material? And size??
     
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  5. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    No...Watercolor on Hard paper..21x18cm
     
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  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't assume she's a gypsy. Could well be someone in traditional costume.

    Debora
     
  7. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I like it and think it's well done....but that's all I can say......I also don't think that signature is English.....here it is enlarged and strengthened.....there are others on board here who may be able to interpret it....maybe! Or at least the language! Tagging @Any Jewelry!

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  8. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Yes Traditional Costume..But from where..?? For sure Eastern Europe...I think..!!
     
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  9. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Big Thanks for that Enlarging...Maybe somebody can give a Name..???
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is beautiful, BTZ.:)

    The script is Cyrillic, and I think the lady is Russian. She seems to be wearing an amber (Baltic!) necklace and 'golubtsy' earrings or 'butterfly earrings', which are long with a row of dangles.
    In rural Russia you can still see old ladies with a headscarf tied at the back.

    Although Russian Gypsies often wore traditional costume, there is nothing about this very fair-skinned lady that looks remotely Gypsy to me.

    Paging Cyrillic readers @Figtree3 , @April07 , @Branka .:singing::)
     
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  11. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Good quality
     
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  12. Natasha

    Natasha Well-Known Member

    The lady is Russian, most likely the village woman dressed in a national costume SARAFAN with some ornaments of Russian style. The name of the artist is Beliayev. It is a pretty common name and I found a few Russian artists under this name. Looks like it is Nikolay Beliayev (1916 -2004). Also, he worked in Soviet Socialist Realism style. And this portrait is created in this style.
     
  13. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    So she's dressed like this.

    Debora

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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is a different Russian costume. The lady is not wearing a dress, but a blouse and skirt. And her headscarf is smaller and tied differently.;)
    Cute though.
     
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  15. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Ah. I understood that traditionally the outer Matryona nesting doll wore a sarafan (which is sometimes awkwardly translated into English as a "jumper dress.") That's how the first two here were identified. And these.

    Debora

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  16. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Big Thanks to You....Very interesting Comments....Does this Signature can be redden..?? Maybe a Good Known Russian Painter..??
     
  17. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Thank you Debora...Yes there is similarity in the Dress.
     
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  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, she is. But the lady in the watercolour isn't.;)

    Not all Russian costumes have the sarafan, just like not all have the kokoshnik, the beaded diadem.
    The sarafan was introduced by Peter the Great, as part of introducing a strict dress code. Ladies in the palaces had to wear Western dress, outside the palaces the city ladies wore a sarafan.
    The sarafan became more popular in the 18th century. As usual the dress code didn't reach all of the population, especially not in rural areas.
    The word sarafan is of Perian origin, btw.

    In place of the sarafan, most country people still wore their traditional costume. Some of the costumes had a general Eastern European look of a skirt with a wide embroidered or appliquéd blouse with full sleeves. This style can still be seen at folklore events.
    The blouse can be very long and worn over the skirt. It can also be regular length and tucked into the waistband. Sometimes a vest is worn over the blouse.
    Imo the lady in the watercolour is wearing one of those blouses, either long or regular length, difficult to see which. But you can see that the textile of her sleeve is the same as the textile on her chest, suggesting one and the same piece of clothing. And both parts are decorated with embroidered or appliquéd bands, or maybe a combination of both techniques.

    Some traditional (pre-sarafan) women's costumes:

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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Jacques, did you read Natasha's post? She wrote:

    "The name of the artist is Beliayev. It is a pretty common name and I found a few Russian artists under this name. Looks like it is Nikolay Beliayev (1916 -2004). Also, he worked in Soviet Socialist Realism style. And this portrait is created in this style."
     
  20. BTZ64

    BTZ64 JB64000

    Wouaouhh..!!! Bravo Natasha..!!! What a good news...!!! Big Thanks for your Hard Work...Amazing..!!!
    Yes Just Now...Amazing...Big Thanks to Her...And Big Bravo..!!!
     
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