English brass candlesticks.

Hello!

This is my first post. I am from Sweden, so bear with me if my terminology is sometimes flawed. I have come to believe that these, this odd couple, brass candlesticks in my possession, are English. I am rather more familiar with Swedish brass candlesticks. (Hopefully I can contribute in the future on that subject.) My questions are: What period are they from, if they are genuine? Are they the same period? Was it common for the base to be soldered to the stem? I haven´t seen a single Swedish baroque candlestick where they were not joined by a screw.



They are hollow all they way through the stem:



The stems are made from two halves, soldered together:



I would much appreciate your help!

 

Are there vertical join lines?

 

Yes, they are both made from three pieces soldered together. Stems and holder in two halves, and the base as one piece. As are Swedish baroque ones with the exception that bases attach with screws on all the Swedish ones I have seen. I´ve seen many over the years, but of course not all ...

 

Ok, I am not an expert. But the vertical seam.lines may indicate an early date.

 

I suspect Georgian. You can buy those here for silly money, which upsets me, rather.

 

Welcome to the forum Johan I love your candlesticks!

bear does that mean they sell for a high amount?

 

Not sure what Bear will say but no, they sell for very little money.

 

So, they're fairly common. That makes sense. I found tham at a flea market. So, silly money would be - 50 pound sterling for this odd couple? Even sillier?

 

Sillier

Odd couple, I think these may have had ejectors.

 

Oh ... so they're later. How could I tell if they had ejectors or not.

 

Yes, sillier, these can be twenty quid, or even less, which is insane given the age and quality. I don't think it's quantity, so much as being out of style. I really like old Georgian brass sticks.

 

Where would you put them, agewise?

 

Hm. Late 18th into early 19th?

 

Aha! I thought they where older, because of the seamed stem. Well, then I kind of understand why they would be less valued. We have a similar situation pricewise in Sweden. Good for people like me. I like buying rather than selling. My wallet scolds me. I dont care.

 

Even the early ones can be bought silly cheap. Those are always tricky to date, though. I'm with you, I buy far too much. And oh, the damaged things simply because they're history. I've an 18th C pickle dish, badly damaged, but I love it.

 

Hi Johan, Your candlesticks are English and date to 1715 - 1730. They never had push rods. Prices can vary wildly. Sellers often do not know what they have, and can go for next to nothing. pairs in good condition can go for hundreds. I saw a pair very much like your stick on the right sell recently on ebay for $265 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wonderful-...d-SEAMED-BRASS-CANDLESTICKS-1715/202652517109 The market is very flexible for this class of candlestick. Desirability of design and condition make huge differences. They often are worn through on spots,especially the seams, by years of polishing.
If I can ever get my act together I will send you a photo of a stick that may be Scandinavian. could use a good opinion. Rod

 

Hi Rod.........
Johan has not been seen here since June 4th 2017......
You're talking to a ghost...
BUT...
I like the new info you bring to the table......

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