France, is it Louis XIV? Help me with coin!

Discussion in 'Silver' started by fettan4, Nov 26, 2020.

  1. fettan4

    fettan4 Member

    882A59B4-5030-4D24-8961-D36D231DB0A2.jpeg 8F81D10E-0D7E-4718-9700-7947E0A7FCC1.jpeg 840DB0F7-AE4E-4A48-B305-47C0F74EFD7B.jpeg F8570E07-EBE2-4749-A7DA-CA8B071AB923.jpeg Can someone help me identify the coin/écu? Pictures of the front and back.
  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

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  3. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    What is the context? Is this incorporated into something larger?

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  4. fettan4

    fettan4 Member

    It’s a cup with a coin!
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  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Would you be kind enough to post a photograph of the entire item?

  6. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I'm no expert on coins. The ones I see online (searching: louis xiv coin palme) have different writing across the top. Those ones generally show the date above and a bit to the right of the crowned fleur de lis where yours has text. I get the impression they were minted in Lyon.

    Lots of other people here know more about coins than I do.
  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    whatever it's stuck's no longer a coin..
  8. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Yes Louis XIV ECU , 1710 struck at Metz
    It looks like it has been overstruck to me. as well as bent and stretched.

    When it was a coin it would have been 0.917 silver.
  9. fettan4

    fettan4 Member

    Thank you so much! Google gives me a another back of the coin. Im confused. When I Google Louis xiv ECU 1710 this pictures cames up. My coin have another back. He also has another piece of jewelry around his neck
  10. fettan4

    fettan4 Member

  11. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    It is this coin, my example has the A mintmark for Paris, I gave you the wrong mint for yours, its two letters under the ribbon, I can't read them in your picture ,AA is Metz, BB is Strasbourg,

    It does not really matter as yours is ruined as a coin.

  12. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Coins are incorporated into things like trays and cups, etc. It may ruin them as coins, but they do get used that way.

    I doubt that yours is a coin. The portrait looks more engraved than modeled, and it has that text at the top on the obverse.

    I'm not seeing any with that fleur de lis collar, which looks much like an upside down crown.

    I suspect yours is a decorative pastiche.

    Can we see the whole cup? No maker's marks?

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