Featured French Phoenician?

Today at one of my patient's homes I saw this beautiful vase tucked in a curio and asked if I could look at it. The glass was very heavy and the label said Old Satin and the bronze ormolu (just learned that word today) was just wonderful, too. It was about 7" tall. Please provide any insight you may have on this piece. I told her I felt it was pretty special and said I would let her know what the "Experts" had to say.

 

All I know is that is a gorgeous piece!

 

I thought so, as well. The craziest part? Her great aunt used it as a candle holder, which is why it is singed around the rim.

 

well u know what they say here.....a lot of makers did the glass...and then someone else added the metal.............. so yer looking to 2 makers..

 

I'd call this a gilded brass mount, not actual ormolu ... not sure of origin but looks European 1870 -1890 ish imo

 

Ask her what nationality her great aunt was. The bird has a crown.

 

Lithuanian, she said
Why not ormolu?


I found this one and it has eagles, too.
https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/d...ician-glass-vase-bronze-ormolu/id-f_17756712/

 

the bird has a baguette in its claws...so it's a special breakfast vase...Second Empire or Napoleon III.

 

1stdibs is notoriously overpriced.

Does appear to be the same maker with the same type of glass and the same ormolu decoration.
I think I would trying to find info on Russian glass prior to WWI.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=russian+ormolu&FORM=HDRSC2

 

Thank you,
I have already learned not to take much stock in the prices on 1stdibs, but I am a visual person, so I look for similarity.

 

It is ormolu-like of course but I guess I was splitting hairs saying it wasn't "true" ormolu. It is more likely to be gold-plated (electroplate).

Today, I'm sure the definition of 'ormolu' has been "modified" to include ware like this, but AFAIK the "actual" ormolu process was eventually banned as the craftsmen were poisoned by mercury vapour.

 

I was poisoned after I licked it, so I thought for sure it was real!


This is the closest I could find for the breakfast vase theory

 

https://www.google.ch/search?q=aigl...oAhXK4IUKHUNpA-QQsAR6BAgKEAE&biw=1518&bih=704

https://www.google.ch/search?q=aigl...c7gE&ei=ZRtpXtrIApD4aZXXrOgF&bih=704&biw=1518

when someone finds a Russian one sided eagle, please let me know.

 

What exactly is a ONE-SIDED eagle?


With a tucked in wing?

 

I think he's referring to the fact that most(if not all) russian eagle symbols/emblems have 2 heads.

 

Oh...here are some?

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=Hy7LswA7&id=F528D7C3096BB13E5D9C74BB383F9B25B3878E4D&thid=OIP.Hy7LswA7177H9qZ4FEtmuAAAAA&mediaurl=http://www.christies.com/LotFinderImages/D61080/D6108062r.jpg&exph=256&expw=270&q=russian+ormolu+with+eagles&simid=608044575563517681&selectedIndex=6&ajaxhist=0

https://canonburyantiques.com/p/bronze-ormolu-russian-eagle-statue-birds-russia-1337276785/

But are we saying the vase is Russian?

https://favpng.com/png_view/symbol-...of-poland-coat-of-arms-of-poland-png/3hd45ZZz

 

@clutteredcloset49 suggested you look at russian glass - my own interpretation of Fid's comment was that it was in reply to her suggestion.

 

No, not at all.
I'm sorry, I may have misled you. I only suggested a line to investigate.
Are what FID is showing French eagles? They look very similar to the eagle on your vase.

I only suggested Russia because your lady was from Lithuania. And the time period was right for ornate items. More than what I would have expected from France. However, I am only throwing out avenues to investigate.

 

Okay...I am only "pretty" sure that the eagle is not holding a baguette, at this point.


I found a lot of one-sided eagles with crowns, but I am not sure it makes or breaks anything.

 

okay, no more continental humour. antiques are a serious business.

yes.