French small oval pewter dish w/ fleur de lis & salamander w/ crown design

I bought a small lot of pewter pieces a few weeks ago & am going to need some help on the marks. This is piece #2.

It measures 9 7/8" by 7 1/8" across.

I am thinking it is French due to the design including the salamander with the crown & the fleur de lis on the front.

I did look through the marks in the pinned site at the top of the page, but if it was there I missed it entirely.



Thanks for any & all advice or opinions!!

 

??????

 

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-pewter-plate-dragon-crown-1777381338

 

https://www.antiquers.com/threads/pewter-marks.25690/

 

Thanks INH!!!

 

Here is some irony for you.

I had a Google page open where I had been looking to see what exactly to call the creature in the center. After I had seen INH's response I went back to the page so I could do some further research. As soon as I opened it there was the image of my Crown over Rose mark staring me in the face, but had not seen it when I was there before.

So I clicked on the image to see where it would take me & I ended up on a 2014 page from the eBay boards & there were several folks who were quite familiar to me.

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Archi...is-dragon-and-crown-pewter-tray/td-p/21479996

So even though you did not even look in on this thread thanks to @kentworld @say_it_slowly & @Figtree3 for your assistance.

However it made me sad because one of the posters was also ladybranch & I thought again how much she added to the collective knowledge that is this forum. Susan, you will always live on through all of the posts where you helped & you are very much missed.

 

fantasy marks copying older French and continental marks.
https://www.boutique-etain.com/

 

Thanks for the information.

 

Not a dragon... a salamander. Symbol of Francis I

 

I can't believe you found that on eBay boards! Excellent. I see the original thread on eBay was posted almost exactly 5 years ago, soon after many of us had transferred here.

And I didn't help much, except to mention that ladybranch was somebody who might be able to assist! (And BTW, I never got a notification for your tag, @antidiem .)