Gen Ulysses S. Grant

Discussion in 'Militaria' started by wek, Sep 29, 2015.

  1. wek

    wek Member

    Hi everyone, I have been trying to identify the origin of this portrait, history , ect. I thought I saw it on an on line auction last year but have not been able to find it again. I have had some interest it but I would like to find out more about it It hung with other prints in my Uncles military collection for years. Thanks again . L.
     

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  2. springfld.arsenal

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  3. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Believe The photographer was A.S. Morse of Tennessee. The pic looks exactly like a CDV Morse did of Grant. The only difference is that Morse's picture shows a Lincln's morning band dangling from Grant's left arm. I believe the lithograph blocked out the dangling mourning band.

    The original page I saw it was on the following link. This page messed up badly when opened on my iPad. The CDV is 1/2 way down the page on the left. It is coupled with another CDV of him. The pics are very small. You can click them for an enlarged view. The description is on the right #697. Here's what it says:

    "697. Two (2) cartes of U.S. Grant. A.S. Morse of Tennessee with cancelled revenue stamp. Second CDV of Grant wearing Lincoln mourning band on left arm. (Est. $80-120)"

    http://www.railsplitter.com/sale13/grant13.htm

    I found the pic on another site, which is easier to see.
    http://ravepad.com/page/schuyler-gr...rtes-of-U-S-Grant-A-S-Morse-of-Tennessee-with

    Now there is another pic of him out there that is very similar; however, in that pic his hand isn't stuck into his vest.

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  4. wek

    wek Member

    Thank you both. Your always right on. I think the signature on the left hand side by "Alph Bigot or Bijot 1868. "
    This would be the photographer?
     
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  5. springfld.arsenal

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    Your item is technically not a photograph but a lithograph, and that term would always be used for the item you have in museum and collector venues, no matter what the original inspiration for the final image. The lithograph image was created by a well-known delineator named Alph. Bigot. Here's another example. http://digitalcollections.smu.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/rwy/id/482/rec/2

    There were always two principals involved in a lithograph, the delineator who made the drawing from a photo, sculpture, etc, and the lithographer, who turned the drawing into the finished product and sold it. The delineator was the artist and the lithographer was similar to a printer.
     
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  6. wek

    wek Member

    SA, your explanation was so helpful. After a few searches using your information, I found the site I needed . You are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks again .L.
     
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  8. wek

    wek Member

    I justice my "GEN . GRANT" litho on ebay. The listing #is #161864605461. Thank you for all the input and information " Antiquers forum".
     
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  10. wek

    wek Member

    Sorry bout that..
    I listed my lithograph of Gen. Grant on Ebay a couple of days ago. If anyone is interested. Thanks to the forum for all the help in identifying it.
    L.
     
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  11. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Looks like the listing was ended. It is very nice!
     
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  12. springfld.arsenal

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    Well OP share pls, whahoppen?
     
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  13. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

  14. wek

    wek Member

    Thanks for sharing my listing. I did relist again. I had a buyer overseas but we could not agree on the shipping. I thank you again.
     
  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    what's to agree.....shipping cost is shipping cost......unless you add fees ...
     
  16. springfld.arsenal

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    I grant you that.
     
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  17. wek

    wek Member

    No fees added. Lost a shipment to France by not shipping priority express.Being careful.
     
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  18. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Asking the buyer to eat Priority Express rates is a bit much

    Send it First Class and eat insurance yourself if it makes you sleep better
     
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    wek Member

     
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