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Gold Leaf Art- Portrait of Thomas Jefferson

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by SmileyNC, Jan 24, 2024.

  1. SmileyNC

    SmileyNC New Member


    Gold leaf portrait of Thomas Jefferson with glass & frame.

    Has wire to hang up. The note on the back says: “The silhouette of: Thomas Jefferson, 1743-1826. President of the United States, 1801-1809 Presented by him to Dr. Michael Leib

    Gold leaf art portrait of Dr. Michael Leib with glass and frame. Dr Leib was the United States Senator for PA from 1809-1814.


    Has a wire hanger for hanging. The note on the back says: “The silhouette of Dr. Michael Leib 1760-1822. United States Senator from Penn.” OK

    if anyone has any info/thoughts on what the Value might be I’d appreciate it
     
    SmileyNC, Jan 24, 2024
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  2. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    The note on the back suggests that the one was given by Thomas Jefferson. Seeing as it is typewritten, one has to take this provenance as suspect. The typewriter is a latter half of 19th century invention. What do you know about these? What provevance do you have?
     
    verybrad, Jan 24, 2024
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  3. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    @SmileyNC included more information in duplicate post -
    https://www.antiquers.com/threads/gold-leaf-art-thomas-jefferson.82807/

    Can you tell us what the Library actually confirmed? Did they say who created the portrait and gave it to Jefferson? As @verybrad notes, provenance/history is essential to any attempt at evaluation.
     
    2manybooks, Jan 24, 2024
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  4. smallaxe

    smallaxe Well-Known Member

    Rather than being silhouettes, they look like they are portraits based loosely on engravings by Max Rosenthal (1833-1918). However, the engraving he did of Jefferson was based on an earlier painting, so possibly the gold leaf item here was based on that painting as well. Clearly, the note on the back was created after the death of the Jefferson, not only because it's typewritten, but also because it includes the date of death.
    On further reflection, the gold leaf portrait is fairly different than the engraving by Rosenthal, so those may be entirely unrelated other than purportedly being of the same person.
     
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    smallaxe, Jan 24, 2024
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  5. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Link to previous thread does not work. Confirmation of provenance from the Jefferson library may put this in a whole other category of value. Really depends on what they have to say. Important that anything by the library be put in writing.
     
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  6. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

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  7. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Perhaps our moderator has combined/removed the duplicate thread.
     
    2manybooks, Jan 24, 2024
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