Good Morning All! I Have Two Pieces I Need Info on If Possible TY

Hi everyone! I hope all is well and safe. The first is what I think is Japanese plate. I searched all over the internet and can find anything that looks like this. I first got the In the 80’s at a yard sale with no information. So I hope you will be able tell me something about it.

The second is this clay bottle with something in it that shakes like a rattler when you shake it. I am thinking Mexican, but don’t know the markings on the bottom and hoping you would be able to tell me

Thank you very much and I sincerely appreciate your all your help.

 

The plate is not Japanese, or even Chinese for that matter, although it is styled after Chinese design. Much more likely western (English?) given the little red numbers and the printed letter C. Try to get a "rubbing" of impressed marks or sift cinnamon on that spot to see if it becomes more legible. Likely transferware.

Can't help with the bottle.

 

The plate is English, but I don't know who made it. It's the same decal as Ashworth Chinese and Adams Chinese Ching. The red numbers are the pattern number.

 

I really like the plate, but I not sure of the maker.

 

And I really like the bottle, please let me know if you put it up for sale, I'd like to watch it..

 

I know 'zip' about the plate, but the bottle is adorable!! She wants to keep it a secret as to what's in it!!!!! Probably just a seed or bead!! Maybe for Luck!!

 

The plate looks like Boch Freres "Canton" model. I had one, different colours.
https://perles-et-oiseaux-rares.com...ence-fine-boch-freres-modele-canton-1860.html
https://www.catawiki.com/l/19963881-boch-freres-11-plates-canton-model

 

Thank you very much Bakersgma!

 

Thank you very much Janetpjohn!

 

Thank you very much mugzinnys!

 

Thank you and I will Antidiem!

 

most like beads and I hope it is luck because I could sure use some lol

 

Thank you Tom Mackay! this is the first time I've ever seen anything this close to it. the pattern looks almost the same so I hope it is the same designer.

 

The rim matches the Ashworth exactly, it's just the colors that are different.

 

Plate looks like English Ironstone mid to late c19

 

Concur that the plate is neither Chinese not Japanese.
Love the bottle though! If you going to put it up for auction I too would love to check it out.

 

The mark on the bottle is niggling me. I think it is an American pottery — sort of a studio pottery, not a big company. Mountain something? Dang it.

The plate is mid 19th c English — any one of myriad Staffordshire potteries; like Ashworth or Mason’s (but it's not) and a host of others. The rectangular impressed mark on the right might be a factory mark.

 

I wonder if the maker and a closer date could be found by the transfer pattern. There were so many Chinese scenes and landscapes at the time.

 

Turkey Mountain.....?.....i don't see it...

 

I like the bottle, too! Thanks for sharing.