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GORHAM: Do you know what this mark is?

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by Studio Antiques, Sep 16, 2017.

  1. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

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    Above the Black Starr & Frost - Gorham mark is what appears to be a C and an R. Any idea what this mark means? Any ideas or suggestions? As always, TIA

    PS on back of tray. Will post pix
     
  2. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

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    14" Chippendale (I believe) Tray
     
  3. aaroncab

    aaroncab in veritate victoria

    Hotel mark? I looked up ritz carlton silver marks and it's usually spelled out but...maybe?
     
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  4. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

    The manufacturer's mark dates from 1929 to 1940. I'm only seeing lion over crown marks for the Ritz Carlton. I like the idea though :)
     
  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

  6. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    As already suggested, made by Currier & Roby (quality stuff), retailed by Black, Starr & Frost-Gorham (1929-62).

    edit: Sorry - business under the name "Black, Starr & Frost-Gorham" was 1929-40 as stated...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  7. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

    @Gma, I think you and Dragonfly are absolutely correct. I'm not sure I fully understand the connection between BSFG and CR.
    I understand what you've said, but can't understand why the try would be made by CR and not BSFG.

    I say this because I have a second, smaller - 10", tray. Same pattern BSFG mark. No CR.

    Thanks again :)
     
  8. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Black, Starr & Frost has always been primarily a jeweler, most often acting as retailer for silver, and that didn't change during the years that Gorham owned the firm.

    Trays and other holloware like yours, with that 'pie crust' edge are often named or referred to as 'Chippendale', they were produced by numerous manufacturers. If your smaller tray is identical in design to the Currier & Roby, then it was most likely also produced by them and the maker's mark was left off, if it's just similar, then it could have been made by other makers, including Gorham.

    Currier & Roby produced very good quality silver, often retailed by upscale firms like Cartier, J.E. Caldwell, Shreve, Crump & Low, and others...

    ~Cheryl
     
  9. Studio Antiques

    Studio Antiques Well-Known Member

    @DragonflyWink , I really appreciate your knowledge and time . It is truly appreciated! Makes sense to me now :)
     
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  10. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member

    Silver plate or sterling?
     
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