guys new set of plates

Here i have attached a new set of plates. are they transferware? any idea?

 

Yup, all mid to late 19th transferware. The last one is too stained to be of much value.

 

Can't ID the first plate with the 3 vases. I thought it might be "Etruscan" by Hancock & Whittingham, but the vases and background are all wrong or "Etruscan Vases" by T, J, and J Mayer, but again vases, background, border different. The border of your plate seens to be alternating acanthus leaves and lotus?

The 2nd plate is "Wild Rose" "possibly by J. Meir & Son" per Petra Williams' Staffordshire Romantic Transfer Patterns Cups Plates and Early Victoruan China, 1978, p. 464 under the "Scenic Category." A bit of the description:

"The edge... detailed with a white, rounded zigzag line. ... "Wild Rose" border was used and the the central scene of thatched cottage, river, bridge ... [in foreground of fishermen with skiffs and castle/large house in background]... Coyshe states that the first examples were probably made by Bourne, Baker & Bourne in 1830 ... Many potters made this pattern. ..."

--- Susan

 

I've tried to ID the backstamp on the first plate with no luck. By rotating the pic, it appears the devise used is a garter. Below the garter are the letters "SP." There are letters, etc... within the garter that I can't make out even after editing the pic. There may ge a small "S" or small "G." Other than that the rest is illegible to me. Maybe someone else will recognize it it. I did scan through Godden's spotting nothing, but certainly doesn't mean it isn't there.

--- Susan

 

I found it, I found it, the maker of the first plate!!!! It's the backstamp of

"Samuel Baker & Son, Nr. Rotherham, Yorkshire, England. ca.l1851-1893 (1834-1893)."

The mark and description above is in Kovels' New Dictionary of Marks... 1850 To the Present, p. 60, fig H. Nowwww I know Kovels' is notorious for errors. The backstamp is a garter with a lion facing left holding a banner and "SB & S" below the garter. The pic in the book has "DON POTTERY" above the garter that doesn't appear on this backstamp.

Now have looked it up in Godden's. It is on p. 55:
"BARKER SAMUEL BARKER & SON, Don Pottery, Swinton, Nr. Rotherham, Yorkshire. 1834-93. Earthware."

#263 is a backstamp like on this plate saying:
"Printed mark c. 1851-93 with or without "Don Pottery." N.B. "& Son" or "& S" occurs from 1851 on all marks."

This would mean this plate dates no earlier than 1851. I can's scan the backstamp from either of these sources because they are still in copyright and most importantly our scanner has died.

--- Susan

Edit: Hmmmm... after searching online, found that the backstamp is on the 2nd plate "Wild Rose" rather than the 1st plate with the 3 vases.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Don-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Mariyan, it certainly would be a biggggg help to anyone trying to ID your items, if the pictures of an item are all together. Mixing up front, backs, marks, etc... of items is a real headache to us. The front and back of the 1st plate together and the front and back of the 2nd plate together might have saved me time in researching. Also be sure to number each item as others have suggested in the past.

 

Hey that piece of info is amazing @ladybrunch. wow. any idea about it price in UK. is it a cheap collector's item or what

 

I don't sell so can't help you on price. I do agree with OBB in reply #2 that the 2nd plate's condition certainly devaluates it.

--- Susan