hellp identify I.M.K. porcelain

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  1. Magnolija

    Magnolija New Member

    Help identifying this porcelan. I guess that it has I.M.K. marking (or it is T.M.H., maybe this help someone https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latviešu_alfabēts#/media/Attēls:Old_Latvian_alphabet.JPG )This is my grandmothers, she have many more porcelan with this marking. It has to be older than 100 years. Orgin maybe is Latvian-German-Russian. Any help is welcome here. :)
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    https://imgur.com/1tOhXv2

    https://imgur.com/dVYGk

    https://imgur.com/NdWCiSW

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  3. Magnolija

    Magnolija New Member

    Thank you for answer
     
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    Maybe if it’s Russian, @Natasha or @April07 will know, or be able to exclude.
     
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  7. Magnolija

    Magnolija New Member

    Thank you, i sent messages to them about this topic.
     
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    I tagged them, they should see the alert on this thread when they log in. :)
     
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  9. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    The shape of the cup reminds me of Kuznetsov porcelain factory. They had a branch in Riga. The marks I believe are from the artist. I will try to look for this exact design
     
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  10. Magnolija

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    Thank you for answer. I know about Kuznetsov porcelain, i have couple of his works. But i didn't think this was Kuznetsov, because he had different marks/stamps.
    1. http://www.ngkm.lv/3_Krajums/Ekspozicija/Ekspozicija_Nr_0063.html
    2. https://www.laikmetazimes.lv/2015/11/23/rigas-porcelans-1dala-kuznecovu-legenda/
    Zimogi_Kuznecovs.jpg

    This maybe is from Kuznetsov porcelain factory. Looked his marks/stamps and got idea. Maybe I.M.K. stands for:
    K - Kuznetsov
    M - Matvey Kuznetsov
    I - Maybe is not I but T, because of old writing (https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latviešu_alfabēts#/media/Attēls:Old_Latvian_alphabet.JPG) then it maybe stands for - Terenti Kuznetsov

    Maybe this is to long shot.
     
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  11. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    As April07 mentioned: if these are hand painted, the marks might be the initials of the painter.
     
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  12. Magnolija

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    Thank you, oky, i hope someone know how's the artist with those initials. I tried to find, no luck yet. I will try look in russian language.
     
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  13. Magnolija

    Magnolija New Member

    More pictures I.M.K.
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    Converted to png and pictures changed colour*
     
  14. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    Check this link, where a similar-shaped cup is identified as Kuznetsov Factory in Riga. No mark as well, the initials are different.
    https://www.vitber.com/lot/55392
    There should be a catalog in existence with the initials of all the artists who worked at that factory. I've seen one that has that information for Dulevo factory but no for the Riga one. Maybe, you can find it locally.
     
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  17. Magnolija

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    Oh, thank you. Yes it looks like the same cup and plate/dish !! And the plate has same numbers back sides 828 as mine, but mine has more numbers like 6 38. But that artist P.B. is unknown to me.

    I haven't found any solid catalog of artist who worked in that factory. I have found article where is lot of artist listed who worked there, but there is no I.M. or Inese Margēviča. But in the article is written: ''Dissatisfied with the performers' artistic training, Romans Suta created his own art courses in 1938, which trained about 30 dish painters. According to the sketches of professional artists, he painted objects of representation and gift, products for exhibitions and special orders.'' (google translate)
    Maybe in those 30 unknown artist is mine I.M. :)

    The article - https://www.laikmetazimes.lv/2015/11/23/rigas-porcelans-1dala-kuznecovu-legenda/
     
  18. Magnolija

    Magnolija New Member

    Yes, they are kinda different, but that doesn't mean that it is not same artist or proof that its same. :/

    Thank you, quick read that article, didn't find any clues.
     
  19. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    Curiously, I 've found another item similar to yours with PB initials.
    https://www.fajans.lv/ru/auction/12487
    And finally, some items with Kuznetsov factory mark
    https://www.antonia.lv/ru/aukcion/58/lot-369-kuznecov-kofeinik-i-chashka-dlja-slivok
    From what I saw Roman Suta worked in a much more avant-garde and artistic manner. It is possible that some studio used the blanks purchased from Kuznetsov (the same Baltars by Suta did that) but I think that it's not Baltars anyways, for much more decorative quality rather than artistic.
    Also, isn't a decal, not hand-painted?
     
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  20. Magnolija

    Magnolija New Member

    They are same as mine, but different artist, i guess. Mine also has ''900'' at back side, but hard to see in my photos.
    I don't know if it is decal or hand-painted. I could take close-up photos, maybe you could tell that.
     
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