Featured Help ID with old sheet Music vellum leaf

I am thoroughly impressed by the wisdom and know how on this forum the past few days, uncovering mysteries I've been pondering for years. I've got a few more, I feel like these will be a bit more of a challenge though. This in particular is an old vellum sheet music leaf, a part from small details like it may have come from a book, I have been curious to learn more about it. Narrowing down the age range (I think it is from the 1600s), and possible origin, artistic style etc. I'm guessing it's a Gregorian chant. There are traces of gold leaf, but I suppose that was common on most sheet music of the period?
The size 7 1/2 by 6 inches .

 

Your guess is correct
https://gregorien.info/chant/id/3108/9/en
Exaudi, Domine,
deprecationem servorum tuorum,
et miserere populo tuo,
ut sciant omnes gentes quia tu es Deus saeculorum.
Miserere civitatis sanctificationis tuae,
Domine Deus noster.

 

Wow, surprised once again!! That was fast and pinpoints the exact chant! Fantastic, Thank you!! I'm new to navigating archival sites, but from what I gather it has origins to France? Reverse searching I see a mention of it in the Stiftsbibliothek Einsiedeln Codex which dates to the 9th century? Fascinating, so this is a very old chant. Does this leaf appear to date to the 1600s or could it be earlier?

 

@Ex Libris might be able to also help.

 

I'll post this one here as well. This is a larger vellum sheet music leaf 20x15 inches. I believe this is a bit older. My curiosity about this remains the same. What could be the chant, origin, artistic style? In addition I wonder if this would have ever been in a book or just a loose sheet in a folio. Double sided but it was mounted years back.

 

I may need some help with this one as well. I tried through the gregorien.info site . Perhaps I am not inputting the correct text or maybe this particularly is not a Gregorian chant.

 

https://cantusdatabase.org/chant/231056
Exsurge domine non praevaleat homo

'Domine' is abbreviated on your sheet (it looks like dñc)

 

Be very careful with those glass float mounts. There needs to be a space between the page and the glass, especially if you live where there is humidity. Art can adhere to it and be damaged. Spacers, open mat mount, etc. will prevent that. Obviously the glass needs to be replaced on the one side so it doesn't scratch anything, and the both updated to UV-resistant if not already. Reds and some blacks can be super fugitive.

 

Fascinating, you found it again!! Wow, thank you! It seems like the melody's origin dates back to the 1300s in Switzerland. The other phrases are slightly different, so in a way this is a later compilation? The calligraphy is similar to the codex in the Stiftsbibliothek, so this could be older than what I previously thought (I had always assumed it was 1500s, perhaps this is late 1400s or even earlier?). Can you make out any other phrases? Thank you again!

 

This is Gregorian chant indeed called neumes and there are a lot of these pages on the market. The ones you show are probably from southern Europe, likely Spain. These music books were used by choirs to sing from.

The books where these pages come from are called Antiphonal or Graduale.

These books can be huge sometimes.



Sometimes these pages were recycled into other purposes (from my collection)

 

Antique Gregorian chant pages in glass float mounts were popular in the 1970s, at least here in Europe. Maybe yours was mounted then. If so, the glass isn't UV-resistant.

 

De manu omnium qui nos oderunt libera nos domine.

 

Omnia quaecumque voluit dominus fecit, laudate

 

Yes I believe the small one was mounted then and the large one probably as well. The large one I acquired from a local prop house, so it was used in some film and tv episodes, don't know which ones unfortunately.

 

Wow this is Amazing!! Thank you again for such a detailed historical input! Wow Spain, that is truly fascinating. The history is so rich, and that picture! I had never connected it with choir but it makes sense in that case to be this large. Truly fascinating and you have a wonderful collection indeed!!

 

Thank you very very much!! Such beautiful messages!! You are all truly experts, I can't believe it! It's amazing that you were able to read them!!

 

Are there any categorized codexes that may have included these chants in this order? Any way to go about searching for that?

 

I'm not an expert. I'm just curious, and often persistent in trying to solve a mystery (at the expense of work ... and then end up stressed, trying to meet deadlines )

With the last sheat, I was only able to read 5 or 6 words. But apparently that was sufficient to get these results with Google

 

Puzzles keep your brain young! And it's a hobby that doesn't cost anything much... Well. When it's other people's objects anyway!

 

A bit of a stretch, but I'm curious, can you make out the other half of the first smaller sheet and possibly link it to/find the full phrase?