Help identifying piece please!

Hi all.

Hope someone can help..!

Not looking for chapter and verse, but if someone would be kind enough to point me in the right direction with identifying the attached (style, possible period etc) that would be brilliant.

Read some other posts, so here I go with hopefully the right things;

1) acquired 10 years ago at a "junk" shop
2) condition not great, when we saw it, it was actually a lot less "red" - the guy in the shop took him upon himself to stain it before we collected (it was nicer before)
3) no marks I can see on it, no numbers or initials anywhere
4) low Res images - more High resolution images are hosted on an image site here:

Edit: dimensions 77.5cm high, 43.5cm deep, 91cm wide (widest point)

Edit 2: there *was* some decoration on the 2 rear legs, very thin almost quadrant like, attached is a photo of where this was. I only have a small piece of this left

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Thanks in advance all, any info would be greatly appreciated!

Jay

 

How big is it?

 

Edited original post for dimensions, thank you

 

For those who are reluctant to click links here are a few:

 

Thanks

 

Welcome to Antiquers JayM!

 

No problem, I'm sure some of the furniture experts will have something to say. I can only offer demi-lune as a search term. The construction looks older than the table looked at first blush to me.

 

The proportions look odd on that. I suspect it's been got at and/or it's a marriage.

 

Looks like a revival "folding table" to me. Here is an english example, 1630.
Guesses your table is 20th century, it's not very old i would say.

 

As time went along they got more elaborate with a gate leg

English

American

 

Odd thing. I get the feeling that grandpa made this from old parts and his band saw.

 

LOL, that could very well be! Folding tables are kinda rare, obviously not real popular even back in the day.

 

A few questions that might shed light on age:
-It looks like the board forming the bottom of the storage space is one solid board (though broken). Is that true, or is it pieced? Same question for the base. If these are solid boards, how wide are they (the dimension across the grain)?
-Can you find any saw marks anywhere that you can photograph? Look on the unexposed edges, which are less likely to have been planed or otherwise finished. I am particularly interested in the unfinished surfaces of the large curved pieces. A bandsaw would leave distinctive, very vertical marks. On the large flat boards, look for evidence of a circular saw having been used, vs an up & down saw or pit saw.
-I see at least one square head / cut nail in your photographs. Is this typical of the construction?
-Can you provide a close up of the hinges?

 

Not a folding table with that back board on it.

 

not unusual. well known in France as "guéridon demi lune". mostly used in big houses in big dining rooms.

 

I see that flat head nail...& want to see the other hardware too.
It seems as though the feet don't match up....the ball foot is nice.....the back two..look to be different style and construction...

 

Again thanks guys. Circumstances mean I can't do extra pics this evening, but I will be able to tomorrow. Look forward to more comments / opinion. Fascinating stuff

 

Solid, both. I took images attached. Measurements to follow.

Can't see a lot myself, but again - more pictures. I'll take a closer look tomorrow and feed back. That said, the cuts / joins don't look uniform to me

Yes. There seems to be a lot of these used on both the base and the underside of the top. I have seen some screws used though, including on the hinges

Sure, attached.

I will look at the underside measurements and report back, but see follows images - tried to get a mix of what you asked for. Excuse the socks on one..

Cheers

 

The back 2 had some sort of trim on them. I only have a small part of it that was hanging off when I got it. Looks like beading to me.

More pics of the nails. There are some screws too which I thought might be odd

 

So far I don't see anything that would be inconsistent with a 19th century date. Cut nails were common throughout the 19th century. Wire nails (the round ones we are most familiar with) began to be made about 1880. The standard screws also consistent with 19th century. (Phillips not until the 1930's.) Unfortunately, I can't see any saw marks, which might be helpful. But the wide solid boards indicate they were cut from older growth trees, which tends to indicate 19th or early 20th century as well.