Help Identifying These Teacups, Please?

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  1. LovesVintage

    LovesVintage reader of books and tea leaves

    I inherited these from my mother, who kept them in a cabinet with items that she herself inherited from her mother and grandmother. I love them. How odd, I've only just now noticed the word "Laport" in the pattern! That's a weird place for a signature, isn't it? Does anyone have any information on this maker & pattern? IMG_9981.jpg
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  2. LovesVintage

    LovesVintage reader of books and tea leaves

    Are these actually demitasse, not teacups?
     
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  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Laport was the decorator.
     
  4. LovesVintage

    LovesVintage reader of books and tea leaves

    Thank you. I have so much to learn.
     
  5. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I'm not sure this is the maker but the mark is similar. This is from Röntgen's book of marks for Paul Muller. Hopefully someone will know more.
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  6. LovesVintage

    LovesVintage reader of books and tea leaves

    Thank you! Hmmmmmmmmmm.......
     
  7. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

  8. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Probably Chocolate cups by the shape.
     
  9. LovesVintage

    LovesVintage reader of books and tea leaves

  10. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    Yes, just hand painted enough so they could claim it was, and fool most people into thinking the whole item is hand painted.
     
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  11. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure this is terribly helpful but it appears to be an imitation of Ohme's Old Ivory patterns.
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  12. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    That's what I thought it was until I saw the mark and realized it wasn't.
     
  13. LovesVintage

    LovesVintage reader of books and tea leaves

    I just looked it up and I think you're right. It's a shame, these would look so much better without the stencils.
     
  14. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    did anyone find anything about that Röntgen mark ? is there somewhere a proof that it is a Müller mark ?
    from 1917 onwards it was integrated into Lorenz Hutschenreuther as a still independant department (Abteilung Paul Müller Selb).
     
  15. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    mark shows similarities with the mark of Porzelanfabriek Sorau fr Bohme (green cirkle) 1894-1918.

    and after searching a while, i found your mark in the book of
    Dieter Zuhlsdorff Keramik Marken. and its indeed Franz Bohme. franz bohme.jpg
     
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  16. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I find myself confused, partly because of a language issue so perhaps you know.

    I found this mark online (PS with Germany instead of Bavaria) where someone was asking if it was a Lehmann mark and someone came back and said it's a Bohme mark showing photo you have. They also posted information on the mark and from Google translate, looks to me like it says it is a Lehmann or possibly Christoph Schumann mark. I'm confused.

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  17. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    @Rec
     
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  18. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately I do not have the book to read what the numbers and references mean.
    now based on the photos you have shared through other forums it looks like it must be a Lehmann mark. but I have my doubts about it and have sent an email to the manager of PM&M website (a very reliable site where you can find a lot of information about german brands).

    why did I do that? because neither the mark of Christoph Schumann nor that of Theodor Lehmann, Theodor & Roosberg and porcelainfabriek Shonwald shows similarities with this PS mark. It doesn't make sense to me to believe that Lehmann during a short period used a porcelain mark that looks more on the Bohme's mark than his. but well, I don't know either. Because mijn doubts i send a mail to PM&M.

    If PM&M reacts, I will share te information with you.
    until then i would name this a P&S Germany marked cup from early 20th century.
     
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  19. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Chris Marshall, that site's owner, is a member here so if he sees it hopefully he'll respond.

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  20. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    That's very goed than. I hope he responds
     
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