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Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Chris Mount, Dec 4, 2017.

  1. Chris Mount

    Chris Mount Getting there

    gidday all some clarification on this plate for want of a better word. the frame it's in from wmf and from what I believe anywhere from 1858 to 1930 given the change in logo though I could be corrected. I realise the plate has been repaired but what curious with the mark on the back would it be just depicting a scene from that date interested in thoughts. chris 15123703763233.jpg 15123703763754.jpg 15123703420821.jpg 15123703421172.jpg 15123703420160.jpg
     
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  2. SYNCHRONCITY

    SYNCHRONCITY Well-Known Member

    WMF is the abbreviation for Württembergische Metallwarenfabrik, which means Württemberg Metal Factory and was created in 1880 in the small town of Geislingen on the river Steige (Germany). Hope this helps you in some way...
     
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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    that's sweet....what a pleasant image !!
     
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  4. Chris Mount

    Chris Mount Getting there

    just a thought could it be Dec 15 1927
     
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  5. Chris Mount

    Chris Mount Getting there

    limoges had something similar 15123771673820.jpg
     
  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    A Dutch theme, Volendam dress. Love the cat.:cat:
    WMF ware used to be very popular in the Netherlands. This particular mark was in use from ca 1900 - ca 1918, about halfway down this page:
    http://www.ascasonline.org/windowAGOST63.html
    The tile also looks early 20th century to me. Pity about the damage, but a very charming picture.
    Volendam is a fishing village near Amsterdam. Because it was a short trip to Volendam for tourists, the local dress was seen as the typical Dutch dress. Which it isn't, of course. Volendam:
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    The lighthouse looks a bit like the Volendam one:
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    But could also be the one in Marken, close to Volendam:
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  7. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Etsy: "Dutch boy feeding cats and windmills..."
     
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  8. yourturntoloveit

    yourturntoloveit Well-Known Member

    He's a cat who has been a "mouser" on a recently-docked ship and he is sooooo thrilled to be offered a fish he can hardly stand it after all those hours spent clearing mice from the hold of the ship.

    Uh-oh, the "imagination" is working overtime this morning.:rolleyes: :shame:
     
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  9. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    It's possibly Decor 1527 and not a date.
     
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  10. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I would have grabbed that in a heartbeat, caring not one whit about the damage!

    It would not surprise me to date it in the 1920's (given what's on the back) but might have thought 1930's if that wasn't there.

    Just realized - the scheme for writing dates in Europe does not match the US. If it was intended to be December 15th 1927, it would have been written 15 Dec 1927 instead.
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, I would think decor 1527. Dec 1527 would make it 16th century.;)
    And as Bakers remarked, the date abbreviation is different in Europe. December 15th 1927 would be 15 dec '27 in Dutch, 15 Dez '27 in German.
    Since this particular WMF mark was in use from ca 1900 - ca 1918, a date of december 15th 1927 would be too late anyway.
     
  12. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I had a different outcome while searching windmills and cats.

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  13. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

  14. Chris Mount

    Chris Mount Getting there

    excellent info from all once again and appreciated as always. just to clarify is the plate itself made by wmf in your opinion or by someone else.
    excuse my explanation of this but best I can do. the background colours look solid so would you say that this is in the glazing and the image is a stencil although the colours in the face and shoes and other smaller areas but there are dots in other areas almost like a mix of both stencil and painted
    was 50% off bric a brac so 7 dollars wasnt a bad price i reckon considering i cant find anything like it on Google thanks again chris
     
  15. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I've seen you use the term "stencil" several times for what I think might be more accurately called "transfer." And I do see what you mean about the cross-hatching on the boy's jacket, hat and pants as well as part of the cat's markings. In fact the whole of the central image might have been applied to the plate as a transfer and the color then applied (either a paint or glaze.)

    Note how image on the other one you posted from Etsy has the same boy (facing in the opposite direction) and the grey cat also facing opposite from yours, but painted differently. Since I can't see a closeup of the Etsy one, it's had to tell about how that one was done.
     
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  16. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Max Dannhorn did similar. I've read that the plates used were from Villeroy and Boch
     
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  17. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    Yes, WMF only did the metal work. It looks like a trivet to me.
     
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