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Featured Help With Marks - Did I buy TRASH or TREASURE?

Discussion in 'Silver' started by MrNate, Jul 12, 2021.

  1. MrNate

    MrNate Well-Known Member

    Good evening everyone,

    So I gambled on this piece which finally arrived in the mail today, I'm hoping for some assistance with the marks. Any thoughts would be great, I can always scrape/acid test it but figured I would see if someone could identify first:

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  2. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    lovely piece Mr Nate:) just a WAG, could the 12 be a loth mark? (it looks like 12 to me)
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    http://www.silvercollection.it/DICTIONARYSILVERFINENESSMARKS.html
     
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  3. Generic_Lad

    Generic_Lad Active Member

    Any teapot with ivory insulators is a keeper regardless, but I agree, the 12 looks like a loth mark like Cxgirl posted
     
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  4. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Believe I might see a '12' as well, under an 'A.N' - would think mid 19th century German, with that floral motif, the missing lid may have had a figural blossom finial. Hard to track down a maker without a town mark, and don't know if he used an initial mark, but a possibility is August Niemeyer of Braunschweig - this teapot has the type finial mentioned:


    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/german-silver-tea-pot-19th-century-12-220573189
    niemeyer-teapot.JPG


    ~Cheryl
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2021
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  5. MrNate

    MrNate Well-Known Member

    Thank you @DragonflyWink, @Generic_Lad and @cxgirl ! I felt it definitely looked like a 12 but I didn't want to say that for fear that I would bias the opinion of others. The marks are definitely not the best to read, but I think "AN" "12" looks correct to me. And thank you Cheryl for trying to locate a maker, I didn't have any luck yet but I was more concerned with the notion that what I bought wasn't trash. I paid $50 total and only bought it off my intuition of how the metal looked (no photos of the bottom until I got it) so I'm very happy with my guess.
     
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  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I don't know jack about German silver really, but could see the AN and the 12. The toolwork looks like silver to me too even if I can't read the marks.
     
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  7. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    For what it’s worth my first thought was a Loth mark as well. The close up photos look a little off for silver for some reason but hopefully it’s just in my head.
     
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  8. MrNate

    MrNate Well-Known Member

    I know what you mean with the look, it looks better in person. There’s polish in the creases and the tone looks a little funny due to the lighting in the room but I see what you are seeing in the photos
     
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  9. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Glad I’m not crazy. When you get a confirmation fill us in! You’re gonna need a Sigma one of these days!
     
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  10. Roshan Ko

    Roshan Ko Well-Known Member

    Hi @MrNate
    Nice find as always .... I only had to ask Is the teapot missing its lid? Did not see it in the pictures.
     
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  11. Iowa Jayhawk

    Iowa Jayhawk Well-Known Member

    Worthpoint says sold for $658.67 In November of 2011.
     
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  12. MrNate

    MrNate Well-Known Member

    Sadly yes no lid
     
  13. DizzyDaff

    DizzyDaff Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.

    Really lovely teapot @MrNate - and great find! - I wonder what the chances are of finding a lid which fits?
     
  14. MrNate

    MrNate Well-Known Member

    That’s an interesting idea I hadn’t thought of. I think realistically it’s destined for the scrap pile without a lid, but it won’t hurt to try to look for one that fits
     
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