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Discussion in 'Art' started by John Brassey, Jan 28, 2024.

  1. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    I bought this lovely 3” tall portrait despite the small nick in the glass in the hope that I would be able to open it, clean up the infestation of tiny thunder bugs and put it back together with the chipped glass to the reverse but I can’t find a way to open it.

    There are what look to be six tiny pins around the edge which I guess are holding it together but I thought I’d ask here if any of you are familiar with frames like this and how they are constructed. It’s likely that it was never intended to be opened so I may have to resort to finding a professional.

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Can't help but... lovely. And I've not seen a lock of hair arranged in an initial letter before.

    Debora
     
  3. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    The Gibbes Museum has an extensive miniatures collection and you can see on this page how some of them look when deconstructed. I don't know if you reached out, if they could assist you, but likely you would need the help of an estate jeweler anyway.
     
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  4. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    Thank you
     
  5. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    ive had one before similar, and the pins were the only thing keeping it together, they usually secure into the painting backings, so its quite secure

    looks like a few are missing, which is usually so

    looks like watercolour on ivory from here, and more like the georgian examples, but perhaps deb can tell more by the clothing.

    id check the gold content of the frame as well

    id have a go myself, just being very careful, especially when putting the pins back in
     
  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Regency. Not an expert but suspect simplicity of fabric, bust and sleeves with slightly lower waist points to earlier in period rather than later. From the Jane Austen Centre's web site:

    "In the early Regency (approximately 1797-1805), the most common style of dress for day wear was one that was very classic in feel and simple in style-- what we often think of toady as "typical Regency". It was high-waisted with a wide neckline and rather long sleeves."

    Debora
     
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  7. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Exquisite. The bugs would drive me mad though ! Id have to get them out .
     
  8. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    I can see why you got it. It has an especially nice look.

    I don't envy you the task of having to open it though. But agree, you've got to try! (Or find someone who can. :))
     
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  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I have small display shadow boxes....glass tops....with a pin closure on each side.

    I believe your pendant should pop open....split in half, with the pins removed.
    It looks , a snug fit, so a short sharp blade may bee needed to nudge the edges open.....& lining up the holes to close it again will be a delicate maneuver !
     
  10. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    Problem is that the pins can’t be gripped as they are flush to the edge. They may have to be drilled out.
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    if anything, pushed in further........I wouldn't/\, drill that.....

    but the pins may be magnetic...?
     
  12. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Agreed, it is Regency period. Those "Regency Curls" are a dead giveaway, and it appears the artist went mad for depicting then with detail!
     
  13. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    In the end I got nowhere with opening it. Local jeweller didn’t think it possible without ruining the frame and a professional restorer quoted me £800 (including £140 to collect and deliver!!!!). The pins were too small to remove.

    So I ended up having to remove the top bezel using a very sharp knife. The pieces are undamaged so a local jeweller is going to see if she can reassemble it and re-seal it for me with the unchipped glass to the front.

    Here’s how she looks without the bugs.

    I’ll let you know how she looks when finished.
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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    800 pounds................ was he going to fly in from NY ..? :jawdrop:

    glad u could pop the frame with no damage !!! Well done !:happy:
     
  15. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    congrats john, i dont get itchy fever looking at it now.

    ive had similar problems with miniatures in the past and its a lovely feeling when its finally complete cleaned and back in a frame
     
  16. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    She is absolutely lovely!!!!!!!!
     
  17. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    She looks a little saucy ! Just gorgeous !
     
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  18. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    What a beautiful object! I hope it is all put back together soon.
     
  19. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    She's with the jeweller - quoted two weeks.
     
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  20. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    She’s back from the jeweller
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