Help With Silver Mark

Hi All,
I'm striking out trying to find this mark, it is so tiny, very hard to see - looks like a flower, maybe a rose, then sterling. The box is for a Canadian jewelry store so I think Canadian made but not finding it.
edit: now that I look at the photos enlarged, maybe it is a tree?
any information appreciated
thanks for looking

 

@cxgirl, is this what you mean??

 

Apparently for some period of time, Birks used a sheaf of wheat. But I can't really say that's what this mark was meant to be.

 

AND this looks like LANGE or LANCE, LTD, Jewellers........possibly VANCOUVER, B.C.???????? IF there IS such a JEWELER NAME/place???
@komokwa, @Christmasjoy

 

The mark and sterling are poorly hand engraved,probably the store's mark and not the manufacturer.

 

thanks bakers, I forgot about that mark, will go look it up

thanks Aquitaine, Firbank and Lange is the jewelry store

 

The stamped 'oak tree/STERLING' mark belonged to J.F. Sturdy's Sons of Attleboro Falls, Mass. - their trademarks were also registered in Canada. They were primarily known for chains, but also produced other jewelry, as well as compacts, ring boxes, etc.



https://www.rubylane.com/item/656453-R13513/Art-Deco-Birks-Ring-Box78-Sturdy



https://www.smpub.com/cv/2/RBslide13.html


1906 ad (not sure how long they were in business, at least into the 1950s):




~Cheryl

 

A beginner engraver tries to copy the Sturdy and sterling marks with a dull graver? A couple of teenagers probably could have done a better job after 4 days with a graver..... https://engraverscafe.com/threads/children-in-the-workshop-make-yourself-an-engraving.26358/

 

Don't believe the mark was engraved - and really, what reason would there be to engrave a copy of a relatively obscure mark on an object that would have no extra value bearing it? There are always variants in manufacturer's marks, and they're often significantly different - frankly, this one is more consistent than many (looks like the base of the tree trunk was broken off the punch used on the OP's)...


Two bottom marks pulled from OP's pics:




~Cheryl

 

Wonderful, thank-you Cheryl for the information and taking the time to make a comparison photo of the marks, they sure look the same to me

 

THAT was cool!!!! Thanks for posting, Holly!!!!!