Helzberg jewelers ring, is this pink sapphire?

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  1. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    Had this ring for a while and just started looking for information.
    inside is marked P 10 k for plumb or solid if i'm correct? it is white gold. also marked HDS for Helzberg. But I would like to know about the stone.sorry for my poor pics.
    Mikey

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  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It might be a coated one; Heltzberg was a mall jeweler.
     
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  3. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    As @evelyb30 said, Helzberg is a mall store.

    A big pink stone like this, being that it is set in 10k, I can assure you is a lab created sapphire. And your baguettes are probably white lab sapphire, not diamond.
    If this stone was a natural pink sapphire, of this color and clarity, it would certainly be in 18k or platinum.
     
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  4. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    I believe the "P" is a makers mark,for plumb gold the "P" is next to the "K".
     
  5. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    Thank you all for th information
     
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  6. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    @916Bulldogs123
    It's pretty! Give it a good cleaning and it will really sparkle.
     
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  7. Janice Nicholls

    Janice Nicholls Active Member

    What is "Plumb Gold" exactly? I have a necklace I wear that has "KP" on the Clasp.
     
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  8. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Yes, thanks Holly, I am stuck on same question.

    I have a poor grasp on the meaning of "plumb" @916Bulldogs123 ?
     
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  9. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

  10. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

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  11. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    I like this bit of info:

    "the Karat refers to the purity of the gold, while the plumb can be considered to mean 'exact', in the same way that a 'plumb' wall is exactly vertical or a 'plum' surface is exactly horizontal."
     
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  12. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    Do lab and natural pink sapphires fluoresce different colors under black light?
     
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  13. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    The chart at the bottom of this article explains what colors you should see in sapphires. Listed under corundum.
    I hope this helps!:happy:
    http://www.gemstones-guide.com/Ultra-Violet-Fluorescence.html
     
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  14. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    Another blurry pic but this is what i get
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  15. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    Below is the text from the chart, describing synthetic pink sapphire results:
    "Synthetic pink sapphire: Moderate to strong red (lw); pinkish violet (sw)."

    It looks like you are getting red to pink color.
    Natural sapphire should be orangey in tone. According to this chart.

    But seriously, I am relatively sure that this is a lab stone.
    A genuine earth mined pink sapphire of this color, clarity and fancy cut would be worth thousands, and wouldn't be mounted in a 10k setting.
     
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  16. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    What she said. There was a fad for coated stones back in the 90s, so that's what I was thinking. Clear topaz and sometimes white sapphire would be coated in another color. (see Mystic Topaz) Lab sapphire is more likely in this case apparently. They wouldn't put a real rock that pink in a 10k setting. And Helzberg wouldn't have sold it. A Tiffany mall outlet might, but it would be in the engagement ring case and might not have a price tag - as in if you have to ask you can't afford it.
     
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