Featured Here is a ring for jewelry lovers. Rubies and Diamonds?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by ulilwitch, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. ulilwitch

    ulilwitch Well-Known Member

    I would say my Mother gave me this ring about 20 or so years ago. This rings get a huge amount of praise when I do wear it. I don't wear it much at all anymore so I decided to sell it. I was told that it was rubies and diamonds by a Jewelry store that did not even test it so I am still unaware of what the jewels are. The ring is marked 14KP GTR. Another person told me that that mark was used by JM Fox. Anyone have any more ideas. Scale reads 3.8 g. There are also diamond chips? in this ring that were hard to photograph. ruby ring 1.png ruby ring 2.png ruby ring 3.png ruby ring 4.png ruby ring 5.png
     
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  2. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Rubies are very expensive. I'm not sure of the general extent of their use back whenever your ring was made?

    I forgot what it's called when the interior underside of the top of a ring has been hollowed out to conserve on metal? All in all, the stones don't look dense and dark enough to actually be rubies, and I'm not sure I've ever seen rubies set with diamond chips? Instead, I've seen them set with larger diamonds. I'm not saying they cannot be rubies, just that I doubt them to be rubies.
     
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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    if those are diamonds....they are there for sparkle.....and have very little value..

    my 1st thought was garnets..
     
  4. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Yeah they are cut like garnets, but too light in color to be valuable garnets.
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    yes...they are most often darker......but you know photo's......they can be misleading..:(:rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  6. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Yeah Komo, but the back of the ring does not appear to have any openings where an actual stone could shine through. So I doubt them to be rubies or garnets. Agreed the chips can still be diamond chips tho.
     
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  7. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    There are different grades of rubies and diamonds.

    All the stones need to be tested to make sure of what they are before you sell it!
     
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  8. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    The stones are exactly like most round brilliants, probably hundreds of thousands of rubies,sapphires,etc. have been cut the same way. Stones don't shine thru from the bottom,they reflect light from the top of the stone and they are in prong settings. The only reason there are holes below stones on some settings to to clean the stones when they get dirty.
     
  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Could be lab grown rubies. They've been on the market for more than 100 years.

    Any time I see 'P' as part of a gold fineness mark, my mind goes to 'plate', although I see no evidence of the wear one might expect.
     
  10. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    The 'P' would be for 'plumb' gold - it's a good thing, but the ring isn't going to have much age, '70s-'80s at the earliest...

    ~Cheryl
     
  11. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    GTR-ring-trademark.JPG


    Later reference shows the firm as SAMUEL AARON/JM FOX INC., 31-00 47TH AVE, LONG ISLAND CITY NY 11101 - apparently went out of business not too long ago...


    ~Cheryl
     
  12. ulilwitch

    ulilwitch Well-Known Member

    Added 2 photos. One of the stones in a different light and one of the inside of the of the band underneath the stones. Thanks everyone for opinions. xtra 1.png xtra 2.png
     
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  13. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is a real looker, Ulil.
    It was probably new when your mother gave it to you. That pale pink gold was out of fashion for a long time and has only made a comeback over the last few decades. And rightly so, it is very pretty, and goes well with the rubies.

    I'm with Cheryl, KP for the caratage + plumb gold, as close to the indicated fineness as you can get. I believe it is a specific American mark.
    In the US an indicated fineness can have minute variations either way, plumb gold is the most accurate.
    In many other countries the fineness should be at least the indicated fineness, and is usually slightly over.

    The stones look like rubies to me, and as Marie said, they come in different grades. These don't look like top grade, they rarely are, and I wouldn't expect it together with those tiny diamonds. You can have them tested.
     
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  15. ulilwitch

    ulilwitch Well-Known Member

    Thank You everyone. I will have it tested and let you all know what the jeweler says.
     
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  16. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    The stones look more like not top grade rubies to me too, not that you have shown them from the back. Thanks.
     
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  17. ulilwitch

    ulilwitch Well-Known Member

    I did add the photo from the back and a photo in different light. I just added it to comments.
     
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  18. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    I meant to type "now" that you have shown them from the back.
     
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  19. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    The photos aren't good enough to tell if they are rubies or sapphires.
     
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