Hi..new member..Bronze Foundry Makers Mark France,any idea ?

I hope I can be of some help and find things I don't know.
Glad to be able to join.
May I ask would anyone recognize this Foundry/Makers Mark for these French made Candlesticks ?
The only other marks are old stickers of shipper/Auction House: E.D.E.T Paris AW778
Thank you

 

Oh oh..I think Ive posted in the wrong section..and I glimpsed at the bottom just when I clicked remove after 7 days : (
Id like all my posts to be permanent.
Im learning

 

Hi and WELCOME to Antiquers, Nick!!! I'm sure you will enjoy it here! There are many here of much great knowledge, but we all are continually learning, especially myself!!!! I don't think anyone can know it all about everything!!!! But learning is so much fun!!! Hopefully others will be along to help, especially since some have already been tagged!!! Enjoy it all!!!

 

Welcome to the forum, Nick.

 

greetings.........we all goof sometimes....no worries !

 

Hi Nick!

Welcome to Antiquers!

 

Welcome, Nick! Don't worry about the "7 days" thing you clicked - it has to do with the "Poll" option (which you didn't actually use.) All posts to the site are permanent and can only be removed by a moderator.

 

Hello. Look to be in the Rococo/Louis XV style, late 1800s. Some form of gilding applied. Maybe searching with that criteria can point you in a direction to a foundry. May be tough.

 

WELCOME Nick !!! ... Joy.

 

Thank you everyone : )

 

Welcome Nick,
Impossible to say who make them, they were a lot of founders who buy models and make ovecasts as those candlesticks, 514 is certainly the model mold number and initials can be those of the worker who assemble them, they were payd by piece and put a mark on their work for that reason(andthey were put just before the electrolitic gilding).
Tipycally what you buy in mid 20th century by decorators, we call this design "Louis-caisse" which is a joke with Louis XV name.

 

Hand chasing all over it..no way a low cost Decorators piece.

 

@Nick Athanasatos

I see nothing in the photos which suggest they were chased,it is cast with poor finish.

 

Could I be miss judging it..I usually know quality..I will let you know.
What do you make of this.

 

Not sure what you are looking for.... the photo is out of focus and what little can be seen is the cupped portion bottom center appears to have casting porosity.

 

Ill take better pictures.

 

Way nicer than the 1st two....

 

There is a first and simple sign of quality you can look in a second, when the "gildind" is under the piece same as on the visible part is a sign or what I call decoration item, this in not to say that is junk, but it's a way long with a hand finished piece and a good gilding which is so expensive that you put the protective varnish in all parts non visible.
It's a lot faster to apply gold and you use a lot less gold too which you can add on the apparent parts. ;-)
For the aspect of the chasing, I have some pictures, the best example is this one, you can't reproduce that with any actual process, the more near precise is by galvanoplaty at it cost really a lot to make.
I just finish to clean it yesterday and put the blackening on it, you can see how sharp are the marks of the tool.
You can see the marks of the chisel and those from the hammer to give the relief to this foliage too.


If you want pictures about gilding I can make them when at home, here I'm in my workshop precisely making pictures for insurance and sales.

 

*Thank you beautiful detail.I love fine metal work. Love the picture.
I went to look at the only other Gilt piece(s) I have to see if Gold is underneath and it is underneath as well, but they are not really decorative. (Pictured)
But maybe in general I should look for it (Gilt underneath)as a hint.
*The texturing on the surface of the base on these..that is the Chasing yes? Am I mistaking the texturing all over the French Bronze Candlesticks as Chasing ?