Hidden writing, blue and white plate

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by rhiwfield, Dec 29, 2017.

  1. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    See if you can work out the person whose name is hidden below the fishermen (I can't!)

    Probably no real value in plate, just a bit of fun to keep the brain ticking over.
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  2. aaroncab

    aaroncab in veritate victoria

    To me looks like:

    inverana
    Sicily, 1872
     
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  3. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    Just goes to show, my mind was fixed on it being a person rather than a place.

    I'm thinking that if we do guess right then we should be able to match the scene :)
     
  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    In verano - in summer. That's Spanish. But it is also a place in the ITALIAN Tyrol.
     
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  5. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I think it might say sculp 187_.
     
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  6. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    So, engraved in 187...
     
  7. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Just my humble input....it DOES look like In verano and the date may be 1874?? Sculp or Sicily.....or even neither....not sure....

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  8. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    If it is sculp then I think it more likely that the top line is the engraver's name.

    I am not sure the scene is the tyrol or sicily, I was leaning more to Scotland or northern england.
     
  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Except... the correct Spanish would be "en verano."

    Debora
     
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  10. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    True, which is why I'm wondering if it's the place, rather than the season. No way is it in the UK - trees, houses and boats all wrong. Those are Lombardy poplars, and the border flowers are Mediterranean or Southern European. Spring and summer ones. ;)

    I don't think it says Sicily.

    Oh hang on. I've just had a thought. Maybe it's LATIN. In veranum sculp. Engraved in early summer?
     
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  11. *crs*

    *crs* Hippy Dippy Antiquer

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  12. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The first name looks like John. I'd say the second line would translate to engraved 1874. Beyond that, you got me. Odds are it's the name of whoever created the engraving used to create the transfer.
     
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  13. KentWhirled

    KentWhirled Well-Known Member

    I’m with SIS, sculp, 187_. If you are on FaceBook, there is a transferware group that might be able to ID it.
     
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