How does one verify unmarked Paris porcelain?

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  1. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    This photo is merely an example from the liveauctioneer site. They seem to have distinctive colors is there anything else to look for? thanks 76415112_1_x.jpg
     
  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    books....get books !!!
     
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  3. Adrian Lewis

    Adrian Lewis Journeyman

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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Books are better.....then you too can be one of the Ultra- Knowledgeable !!!!!:happy::happy::happy:;);)
     
  5. Adrian Lewis

    Adrian Lewis Journeyman

    Books can be invariably wrong in some of their publications as can be interpreting stamps on the bases of porcelain. It takes people to fact-check the fact checkers. Only recently I found Goddens "Bible" to be several years out in the first ten years of their Derby porcelain year marks. Books should only be used as a general guide and not the last word on antique identification. If you were to visit the above site you would soon find this out.
     
  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Oh...so your Farcebook site is the last word..........then no thank you.....I'll stick to books as a mostly reliable source........
     
  7. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    That's not what he's saying. He's saying it takes the input of many living people to form a conclusion. Books are unchanging whatever they said when they were pubbed cannot be changed. But if you have living interacting people its got to be better. No one's saying anyone site is the last word, in fact if you interact w/ people there is no last word, only whatever the conventional wisdom is up to this point.
     
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  8. Adrian Lewis

    Adrian Lewis Journeyman

    Thank you for the clear understanding of my post.
     
  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    "Books should only be used as a general guide and not the last word on antique identification."

    I never said they should be the last word..!!

    Why don't u try telling him....that , that's not what I was saying ???

    Plus....while it's true books can and do have the occasional mistake....for the most part they were published by authors who conducted years of study in their subjects , have good pictures..and back up their findings with footnotes that can be researched .

    "I am a member of this FB group and there are some ultra-knowledgable people on there"

    Some....not all.......but everyone has a voice and an opinion...and they're not always right either..
     
  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    But if you have living interacting people its got to be better.

    That's just not true !
     
  11. Adrian Lewis

    Adrian Lewis Journeyman

    My turn. That's not what I said.
    The link was intended as an additional area of research for sundaysilence. One cannot possibly have every book published on any give subject. Thus, other people who have different books, have dilligently researched a subject, have bought, sold and handled (in this case) European porcelain over many years and who can provide researched documentary evidence to support their standpoint can provide credible additional information. I certainly wouldn't take seriously the advice of someone who has only read books as their sole source of information.
     
  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    "I certainly wouldn't take seriously the advice of someone who has only read books as their sole source of information."


    As I would not take to heart someone who has only the internet and google as their main resource !
     
  13. Adrian Lewis

    Adrian Lewis Journeyman

    I'm adding to my knowledge base every day by listening to people who know more than I on given subjects. . I'm just a 70 year old (nearly) retired firstly antique dealer for many years and later auctioneer-fine art valuer with my own auction house, so what do I know.
     
  14. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    I've always found Old Paris porcelain a tricky term so I rely on my own experience and those with more experience to help me figure out what I might have. I think it's a combination of shape, color, and decoration style (note the pattern on the trousers). If anyone has a good book on Old Paris porcelain I'd love to add it to my library. I don't really have a book on French porcelain (outside Limoges - I got a boatload of those). Any recommendations most appreciated.
    Don
     
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