Ice Bucket

Discussion in 'Silver' started by kardinalisimo, Jul 9, 2015.

  1. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Mid Eastern/Asian origin? Do you think it solid silver or plated.

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  2. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Sorry, wrong place. I guess I can't move the thread.
     
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  3. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

  4. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Prunus, so Asian is definitely a good thought.

    As to solid or plated, that sloppy "silver" marking is really no more likely for either. You might want to try cleaning a few of the worst dark spots to see if they're pits through plating. Is the inside in similar condition?
     
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  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Kard - you could start a thread in the Silver Forum with a link to here so the silver folks will see it.
     
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  6. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Here is the inside
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  7. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    kardinalisimo

    I moved your thread for you and deleted the other.:cool:
     
  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Davey....you're so helpful.....when you're not 1000 KM away on the road !! :hilarious::hilarious:
     
  9. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Plated-you can see brass or base metal in places, and some verdigris which doesn't grow on silver as far as I know.
     
  10. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Which I will be at 02.30 in 4 hours, first trip out this week:cool:
     
  11. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Actually, I don't see any base metal. Some areas appear like that only on the pictures. There are some yellowish/gold tone spots but I've seen that on solid silver.
    No veridigris either. I can't explain it but I've seen veiridgris on sterling silver. Maybe that can happen if a piece is in contact with other metal.
     
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  12. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

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    Hmmm, well maybe. The pic above sure makes it look exactly like brass in the Y-shaped area near center, then on the edge at about 5:00. In a couple of places where you can see how thin the metal is, it really looks too thin to hold up to any use if it were really sterling silver. If that brass appearance in the areas mentioned is just a fluke of the photography, it has a most remarkable resemblance to brass.
     
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  13. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    I see that, but it is not enough to conclude that the base metal is brass. Maybe it is, but I have to scratch deeper. The handle is removable and I did a deep cut on one of the ends. I think I see yellow but need to inspect it on day light.
    I've had sterling pieces with gold/yellow spots that look just like brass. Even if marked, many times I've doubt if they are solid or not because of such spots. And most of the time they don't come out easy.
    So, you may be right but I will know more tomorrow. I am trying to figure what is written above 'silver' but not enough clear letters.
    While researching I found that some Japanese pieces are marked 'sterling 950'. I thought only 925 is considered sterling?
     
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  14. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    It is, but the Japanese use 950 a fair bit, so they probably use the word as well as over-emphasis that the item is solid. (Just a WAG, but seems logical to me.)
     
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  15. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

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  16. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    One other feature you can see in the pic of the bottom is the construction method of a metal circle soldered into the cylindrical body of the piece. I don't know much about silver stuff but the usual construction method for a vessel is to cast, pound, or spin the very malleable silver into the complete shape at least for the basic vessel so no soldering or piecing-together is needed, which also looks better. Brass isn't malleable enough for that, so it would have to be pieced-together as was done here. I could be wrong though, Idunno silver at all.

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  17. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Don't know why something appears yellow when it is not

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  18. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    I'd suggest if u r still in doubt as to what the item is made of, simply stop at a place that buys such metals and tell them you want to know what they'd give u for it. If sterling they will weigh it and make an offer. If not they will not want it. And then u will know for sure.
     
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  19. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    I guess I will have to have it tested because I can't figure why direct light makes some areas appear goldish and when looked under angle, with no so much light, they come silver.
     
  20. fidbald

    fidbald Well-Known Member

    I'd call it ice boquet...
     
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