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  1. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Hi All,
    would this be considered aventurine glass?
    any information appreciated.
    thanks for looking
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  3. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I used to be a bead seller and beaded jewelry designer (and may be again!) and have had many varieties of Venetian glass beads over the years. They've been favorites of mine.

    This one looks like embedded gold foil to me, called "sommerso." The foil may be pure gold, but it's hard to know for sure. Aventurine/aventurina is most often applied on the surface and is copper-based rather than gold so the coloring is warmer.
     
  4. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    thank-you Pat, I would never have figured that out:) Using Sommerso I'm now able to find similar pieces.
     
  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It could be called cased glass too, but aventurine... probably not.
     
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  6. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Not Sommerso.

    Sommerso is a technique of layered glass (Sommerso translates to submerged)

    That has gold foil inclusions, I'll see if I can locate the correct term
     
  7. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Foglia d'Oro
    “Foglia d’oro” is a technique for including a thin 24 karats gold leaf inside of the glass. A small quantity of glass is molten, blown, shaped in a form of a cylinder and rolled over gold leaf laying on a plate in order for to attach.Afterwards, more glass is applied to the item and the leaf is enveloped in the glass. Once the master starts working on this mass, the thin gold leaf breaks and appears as a mix of golden straws.
     
  8. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Here is a great example of the Sommerso Technique

    sommerso.jpg
     
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  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I agree, it's not sommerso. Foglia d'oro is a good term, but not widely used in glass collecting circles - it would be called aventurine, even when it's gold.
     
  10. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    thanks desperate:) Yup, your example is what comes to mind when I think of Sommerso but from poking around on-line it seems that in the bead world my heart piece is what is known as Sommerso. Maybe a case of one person using the term and then others copy it, I don't know.
    that description seems to fit, I've never heard it before, will have to look it up.
     
  11. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Okeydoke, I stand corrected. Sorry for any confusion! :)

    I looked back at my old listings, and when I listed beads like this, I simply said embedded gold foil. I didn't know the Foglia d'oro term, so it's nice now to learn that now.

    This is an example of beads I've called "sommerso," where solid color glass and aventurine are embedded within clear glass.

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  12. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

  13. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Well this is interesting... Google Translate says that "sommersi" is "submerged" in English. That's what I thought "sommerso" means... but Google says it means "black" in English.
     
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  14. aaroncab

    aaroncab Well burnt ember.

    Sommerso definitely translates to English as "submerged" I think in some contexts it could be used as obscured / blacked out - google translate can be a bit finicky at times. I'd say primarily it's "submerged" for sure.
     
  15. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Ah, thanks for that. :)
     
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  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Pat, your "sommerso" beads, I'd call inclusions - as in, aventurine or foil inclusions. Sommerso, strictly, is that kind of cased effect in desperate's photo.
     
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  17. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Bear, I don't have experience with art glass other than beads, and I don't doubt what you're saying at all.

    In my experience with Venetian glass beads, though, the term has long been used for the kind of bead I posted. I don't know if bead manufacturers use the term or if it's just dealers and purchasers.

    Perhaps the terms have been used differently by bead people in the UK and the US?
     
  18. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I think it's different sectors, if that makes sense. I collect glass, rather than beads and in that "world" the technique isn't sommerso. It may well be different here, too.
     
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  19. Snipsa

    Snipsa Active Member

    You learn something new everyday. In Afrikaans the words sommer so means "just like that" or "easy". Those pieces definitely don't look like they were made sommerso/"just like that" :shame:
     
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  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Like the Dutch "zomaar zo". Hollanders can't pronounce the z, so they would say it more like in Afrikaans.
    We Dutch can understand most Afrikaans, when spoken.
     
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