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Discussion in 'Furniture' started by Daniel oshaughnessy, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. 20180629_134129.jpg 20180629_134138.jpg 20180629_134138.jpg This is a local thrifting find. I know it is a sack back windsor. Not sure of the age or region it was made. It is all hand made and I see faint traces of green paint. Really love this find!
     
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  3. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS!!!

    Daniel, I loved these chairs for a while.....but have to admit they are no longer the most comfortable in the world!!!:joyful::joyful::joyful::hilarious:

    @James Conrad, does that broken spindle run the whole length, or is it a separate piece/length at the halfway up horizontal support???? Or @verybrad?? Whoever knows......:rolleyes:
    Thanks.....just wondering how hard a fix that would be......
     
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  4. I wont be sitting in it....far too old...for decoration in my foyer
     
  5. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS!!!

    Trust me, those old chairs are waay stronger than you think!!!! Else, how do you think they got to be at least a couple of hundred years old.......WE WON'T!!!:joyful::joyful: But then being a kid and being brought up with antiques wasn't always that much fun.....we always had to be 'very careful'!!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  6. patd8643

    patd8643 Well-Known Member

    We had several of these arch back Windsors growing up and even thou antique then, we used them everyday. Even had them at the table for dinner but with the arms you couldn't get too close. The spindle can be replaced by a craftsman.
    The seat (plank) looks good - was usually pumpkin pine. The hands (end of arms) lack the finger definition frequently seen and doesn't have the high definition of the turnip feet common to these chairs. Nice - worth some TLC.
    Patd
     
  7. I live in florida...so you don't see these very often.
     
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  8. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Looks right to be old to me.
     
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  9. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    @Aquitaine , the spindles go all the way from the seat to top rail, a single piece.
    Is it 18th century? Maybe, hard to tell from pic's alone but it's certainly 19th as i agree it looks old.
    One fairly easy way to tell if windsors were hand made is, are the spindles all a little "different" slightly in size/shape? If so they were made with a spoke shave and hand made, if all perfectly the same, post 1850 and machine turned, ditto for the turned legs/arm supports, are they all perfectly the same or slightly "different". Naturally, photos do not reveal details like this so without an in person hands on examination, impossible to date with 100% certainty.
    Nice chair, i would have that spindle replaced.
     
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  10. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that hurts value, no doubt, as your chair has been stripped. Windsors in america were mostly all painted because they were built with different species of wood & a coat of paint hid that & gave the chair a harmonious look. Unfortunately, during the 1960s-70s stripping painted furniture became a fetish in america as everyone wanted to see "real" wood, no matter if the piece was designed to be painted or not.
     
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  11. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS!!!

    Thanks for the details, James!!!
     
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  12. Wow...thank you so much for the info. The turning are different from side to side on the legs and arms. The spindles are slightly different as well. So....hoping that dates this to an earlier period.
     
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  13. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it does, indicates it is before 1850. If you have that spindle replaced by a restorer, he/she would probably be able to tell you more with an in person look-see. There is something about old furniture in general that the camera just totally misses, little details that are easy to see in person.
    In any event, nice chair, you did well getting it at a thrift store.
     
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