Featured Is this really a 19th c. Maxart piece?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by gauntlettgems, Mar 5, 2018.

  1. gauntlettgems

    gauntlettgems Well-Known Member

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    Hi, This looks handpainted to me and the signature is Maxant, from what I can tell. Researching his stuff leads me to believe that this is possibly from the 19th century. With so many copies and fakes, I am asking here if anyone thinks this is authentic and really as old as I think it might be. What would the hole in the back (last pic) be for? I could not get any part of it to unscrew. It is approx 16" tall. What do I call it? All I can think of is an urn but the top does not come off. Thank you for any help
     
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  2. Barn Owl

    Barn Owl Well-Known Member

    Could it have been wired for a lamp?
     
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  3. gauntlettgems

    gauntlettgems Well-Known Member

    I wondered that but then I couldn't figure out where the rest of it would go or how they would thread it anywhere I do see a few examples of his stuff in lamp form so...
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    The acorn ? finial does look a little forced....
     
  5. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    It looks handpainted to me too. Very pretty picture.
     
  6. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    I can't believe a fake could be so good. The painting is lovely. It's a bit fancy for my taste, but it reeks of class in my very humble opinion. My bet is genuine article -- the painting at least.
     
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  7. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

  8. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    That is a lamp base and that top finial looks like a modern lamp finial. You can still buy this exact one today. This has to come apart.
     
  9. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    I didn't know about Maxant until this post so please keep that in mind. Even before I explored Maxant I had the same problem as Komokwa - namely that finial. It just seems out of sync with the rest of the vase. As Brad noted you can still get that finial today and that pineapple style has been around forever.

    Frankly, I'm not that crazy about the metal base either. But on viewing other Maxant examples on Google search it seems a lot of their urns have those pineapple finials. What I suspect (and again, I'm not real familiar with Maxant), is that Maxant produced handpainted lamp/urn parts which other companies combined with accent porcelain and all the metal work. It would have let Maxant concentrate on their handpainted pieces without having to worry about the final product. The companies that produced the final product could make urns, lamps, whatever, and use the Maxant name to try to denote quality. I would have urged using better quality metal parts but no one asked me.

    Brad is also correct in that thing has to come apart somehow. Most likely by loosening the bolt at the bottom (sometimes these are referred to as bolted urns). But I'm not sure taking it apart will help much and may not be worth the potential damage to the urn.

    Personally, I think the Maxant part is indeed genuine. 19th century? Probably not in this form at least. I don't know when electric lamps came into common usage but I'm pretty sure it wasn't anywhere near that early. Whether it was this form originally is anybody's guess.
    Don
     
  10. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    It's a lovely painted vase, although her left arm is at a very weird angle (to ME!).... the base looks like a replacement that maybe someone was thinking of converting the piece to a lamp.....but this isn't also my 'neck of the woods'!!!! Still lovely piece!!!!
     
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  11. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    I think Don's assessment is spot on, thanks! :cat:
     
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  12. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

  13. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Good Job Bob! :cat:
     
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  14. gauntlettgems

    gauntlettgems Well-Known Member

    Nice find on the scene!!! Ok, I will do more research to determine how to list this piece. It came fairly cheap and I thought it was a beauty. Someone will love to have it, I bet! Thank you, everyone, for the help!!
     
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