Japanese vase id?

It is about 12" tall and 7" wide at it's widest. I've been trying to look up the marking but no luck so far. Any help would be much appreciated!

 

it looks newer....& I don't think that means made in Japan..

 

I think it means Japanese made/fabricated...en francais. As to the red mark...that's Japanese and probably a maker's mark. Looks like 20th cent Satsuma ware.

 

the faces are goofy...and is that fake crazing on the bottom....only..?

 

I've seen this style (the "goofy" faces) before on genuine Satsuma items - seems to be a particular feature of "some" Satsuma decoration. There are several examples on this page towards the bottom:

https://www.veniceclayartists.com/satsuma-ware/

 

Indeed..!!...still goofy though...

 

Did the French import Japanese wares?

Satsuma style.
I don't think it is terribly old. 1960s and later.

 

I don't think it is Japanese at all. It is a French.

 

I'm not an expert but don't see any reason this couldn't be Japanese - the style and execution fit many other Japanese Satsuma pieces readily viewable on this (antiquers) and other sites. As to dating it, I've seen pieces with this style of decoration dated from the late 19th century up until late 20th/ contemporary times. The crackle glaze is right - the moriage decoration with gold accents, the style of the faces, the shape of the vase, the type of earthenware etc...all seem okay to me, but again, I'm just a part time collector/picker and have no special knowledge, so I could be off base.

All of this just my opinion as I said. I don't know about French import of Japanese pottery - but would be surprised if they didn't.

 

I wasn't saying this isn't Japanese.
It is.
I could be off on the date. It might be 1930s. My first impression was later.

 

Of course it's Japanese - it even says made in japan!

 

Sorry, yes that part of my answer was more for Bulldogs.

 

So was mine, I was agreeing with you.

 

wouldn't that read Fait Au Japon...?

 

Oh alright, not Made in Japan per se, but the altogether different "Japanese Made"

 

@kyratango How should we read this? Manufactured in Japan? Made in a Japanese way?

Are the figures a particular emperor & empress? Apparently we are not the only ones who do not know what to make of this. The estimate range & outcome of this auction speak of uncertainty all round:

https://www.invaluable.com/auction-...ainted-figural-porcelain-vase-93-c-6ea47e3bc1

 

no need to be sarcastic...it was an honest question !!

 

The goofy Satsuma faces are a result of the downward quality spiral of Satsuma, ever since they started to make these wares to meet Western demand.
Satsuma ware was beautiful and very Japanese before they decided to cover their wares with an abundance of Samurais and Immortals.

Everyone in the Western world did and still does.
During the Edo period (1639-1858) the only Westerners allowed to trade with Japan were the Dutch, from the man made (and fan-shaped ) island of Dejima. The island was created especially for the Dutch because no outsider was allowed to live on Japanese soil. Japan wanted the extra income, but its citizens should not be exposed to foreign ideas.
But as you can see, Dejima was connected to Japan proper by a bridge.



By the time Japan finally opened up to other Westerners in 1858, the custom of having Japanese wares in well-to-do homes was firmly rooted in Europe.
Japanese-inspired Art Nouveau started in France, and Dutch painter van Gogh painted his Japanese influenced paintings while in France.

This one dates from 1887, with van Gogh's collection of Ukiyo-e in the background:

 

Fabrication Japonaise is there because it was made in Japan, and imported to France (yes, lots of Japan Satsuma, rather not artistic IMHO , imported and fashionable in France back then 1930s/50s)
I'm in no way specialist in Japan emperors attire... so can't say if the personnages are related to them

 

@Any Jewelry the Van Gogh is a beauty, never seen him!
Claude Monet was too a great collector of Japanese woodblock prints and contributed to form the European taste for them