Featured Jewelry help needed, pearls etc

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Lucille.b, Nov 16, 2014.

  1. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Haven't found signed pieces at a sale in a long time. Got these at a single sale on Saturday. David Andersen, Vendome, Karu Arke, Krementz, Trifari, Regency, Art, Oscar De La Renta, Monet. One of the first pieces I saw was the double leaf David Andersen bracelet, recognized it from several feet away, was thinking okay, no one has been here before me. Thank goodness!

    Now home, need help with just a few. Unbelievably, almost everything is signed, so that makes my job easy for the most part, but just had a few questions about a few of the unsigned.

    What should I call the gold filigree bracelet and matching earrings -- is there a keyword for that style other than filigree? Any idea what country they would be from?

    I am not a pearl buyer, seems like I've never seen anything but fakes so usually don't bother looking, but this had a 14 KG on the white clasp, so feel they might be the real thing . Fits fairly close to the neck, 3 strands, knotted, the pearls are graduated in size. I do not see any finish wear. Thoughts? @Marko (Marko, I think you know pearls, right?)

    Finally just curious about the orange beads. They are only 3 on a gold chain, but I just think they are beautiful.

    Thank you all for taking a look!

    jewl1.jpg jewl2.jpg


    If I missed anything of interest, let me know!
  2. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    What a nice haul of jewels:happy: I love those orange beads, hope someone will know them. Do you know who made the red earrings (main photo above the orange beads) and the blackish/grey rhinestone set?
  3. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Thank cx, I was so pleased to find these.

    The red earrings are Karu Arke and the black and gray set is Regency.

    I don't know much about the orange beads, but I suspect maybe Italian or Czech? They are just different than anything I've ever come across.
  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    looks like 3 nice strands of cultured pearls.
    if you scrap them against your teeth you can tell they are not plastic.
  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    they look hand knotted and that's a good sign they are real also.

    ( from what little I know about pearls......being a swine & all....LOL...)
  6. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    If they are early Czech blown glass beads with pearl finish, you will ruin them by scraping them on your teeth.
    I had some and the paint was chipping so I removed it all and I have the most beautiful opalescent glass necklace.
  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    i'll put my money on pearls...
  8. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

  9. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Thank you Komokwa, Bev and Shiloh.

    Focusing on the pearls, over the years I had heard about the scraping on the tooth thing, I did it ever so carefully prior to posting here (following instructions on Youtube, lol..) but not sure I would describe what I felt as "gritty".

    The more I look at these however, the more I feel they must be real pearls. There is no wear, the weight is kind of unique --not quite as heavy as glass, definitely not plastic. Here are a few more photos.

    perl2.jpg perl3.jpg perl7.jpg perl99.jpg
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  10. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    All the pearls I own have minute spots,if you do the tooth test on a sharp part of your tooth,you will feel the scratchy feeling. Try on a fake pearl and you will see the covering scraape off. I reaad somewhere once that nacre is ground up and made into a paint and put over glass.It will still scratch off too.
    Your pearls look like a champagne,very nice.
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  11. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    There are a few spots with imperfections on these, like a little bump or ridge or speck now and then, but with a magnifying glass doesn't look like there is finish loose in these areas. Still sorting it out.

    If I was planning to list, would this be the kind of thing to take to a jeweler for confirmation?
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  12. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

  13. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Its so hard to tell without knowing what you are buying from a reputable jeweler or having them looked at. Here are ssome of mine.
  14. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    When discussing flaws in diamonds or colored gems, the jewelry trade uses the term clarity. This refers to the degree to which a stone is flawed. In the pearl industry, a variety of terms is used. For example:
    Blenish Spotting
    Cleanliness or Cleanness Surface quality
    Complexion Surface appearance
    Flawlessness Surface perfection
    Purity Texture

    In the USA, surface quality is the term most frequently used to denote pearl clarity. There are also a variety of synonyms for the term "flaw:"
    Surface characteristic
    Surface mark or marking

  15. mymysharona43

    mymysharona43 Well-Known Member

    If your like me and can't really tell because they fake or made costume ones that are hard to tell unless you know pearls. I take mine to my jeweler when in doubt. Mine will tell me what kind of pearls and size if I ask, never charges for info. I think he might be a jem, sure hate to see him getting so old....but he is training his grand children well..
  16. mymysharona43

    mymysharona43 Well-Known Member

    You wouldn't want to list them and sleep good without knowing for sure
  17. mymysharona43

    mymysharona43 Well-Known Member

  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Don't list em.....wear em !!!
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  19. 707susang

    707susang Active Member

    Lucille, I think your gilt filigree is vintage Portuguese. It may be marked, they can be very small.
  20. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Thank you Shiloh for showing the ones you have, plus the link very helpful.

    Sharona, I probably will bring them by a jewelers just to be sure. I don't have a great older timer friendly jeweler like you do, but I did do business with one place last year and they made some money on me, so maybe they would be willing to take a look. Up until this point I had no idea how to tell the difference with pearls unless it was totally obvious like finish peeling off or something. But this purchase has changed my eye a bit. I feel like I'm holding beads I've never held before. There is a certain weight, and if these do turn out to be the real deal, I'll now know what to look for.

    Komokwa, this sounds strange, but I'd rather look at them than wear them, so I should probably sell them!

    Susang, thanks for the tip on the clasp. I did not see any other marks, no matter how small, but maybe these are Portuguese.

    Will report back if I do make it to the jewelers. Probably at some point after Thanksgiving.
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