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Featured Just bought a silver Kris-Keris handle!

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by kyratango, Apr 24, 2022.

  1. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Seeing our precious @Any Jewelry just peek an eye on the forums, I can't wait to receive this beauty to show it!

    15cm, nearly 300 grams.

    My first search gives it is Balinese...
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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is Balinese, or possibly Lombok Balinese. Lombok was a Balinese colony for some time, and there is still a Balinese cultural minority. With all-silver hilts it is impossible to see the difference, with other hilt materials are easier to spot.
    It is not very old, but very beautiful, well done you.:woot::woot::happy::kiss:
    It looks like it was never used, many people collect keris hilts as objets d'art (need a translation?:hilarious:), and many are made as such. I also have a few scattered about several rooms.

    The general type is called Togogan, which means statue (if I remember correctly, no research skills yet).
    Togogan hilts used to be reserved for the aristocracy, and worn with keris sheaths that were also reserved for the aristocracy.
    Your Togogan depicts Bayu, the God of the wind and teacher of Hanuman, the monkey general. Bayu is one of the most popular hilts. The nice (and confusing) thing is that he has been given a Javanese hairstyle, with that big curl. Probably to give him a bit more status.:playful:

    The fact that the usually inlaid cabochons round the base are executed in silver, makes me think your beauty could have been made in Lombok, but culturally Balinese.
    I have one silver Bali hilt, with pink tourmaline cabs (no pic yet:(). That is how Balinese Togogan hilts usually look, usually inlaid with gemstones or coloured glass.
    Below is a photo of four of my Bali/Lombok hilts to show what I mean.
    The three on the left are from Bali (including a gilt brass Bayu), with inlaid cabs, the one on the right was made a few years ago by a master carver on Lombok. It has a silver hilt cup with the cabs depicted in silver.

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    Last edited: Apr 24, 2022
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  3. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Very interesting. A great and informative comment (as ‘always’) A classic AJ answer!
     
  4. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    How great to get your opinion on my new find!!! Thank you so much for your, as usual, very knowledgeable comment, and sharing your pieces:kiss::kiss::kiss:
    Now to search and get some info on Bayu (that will be his name now:)!)
    It was described as Indochina or Thailand saber handle:facepalm:
    I got it for 112.51€:happy: very happy to have stumbled on him by pure hazard:)
     
  5. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    Shockingly gorgeous!!:woot:
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Of course.:D
    Yay! that's a bargain.:woot:
    I couldn't find a similar one for sale, only this Sulawesi silver hilt (Balinese-inspired), which isn't even close to the quality of yours:

    https://www.bali-artshop.de/epages/63684478.sf/en_US/?ObjectPath=/Shops/63684478/Products/HGA32

    This is the type of stand that is often used for display. With your skills you can make one yourself, and even kyratise it::happy:

    https://www.bali-artshop.de/epages/63684478.sf/en_US/?ObjectPath=/Shops/63684478/Products/HSPKS01

    They also have them in painted wood (eg. red and gold), marble with a metal pin, or perspex. There is no real tradition, so you can make anything you like.
     
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  7. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Super!!!!
    I may kyratise one:joyful:
    It happen I just did one for a souvenir my hubby brought back from his first step on his hike of the year: crossing France from North East to South West:woot:
    It is a “bulot” shell from Dunkerque beach. As he name himself “the snail”, a cute pink one found in my garden complement the composition with a bit of white coral he brought back from New Caledonia.
    The base is a battered crucifix, kept to be repurposed:happy: and a hatpin hold the shell.
    All is put together with.... putty, gilded with gold marker:hilarious:
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  8. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    What a great idea!
     
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  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    way to pull AJ out of hiding....for all the right reasons....

    &... nice find !!
     
  10. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    I would assume it is filled with another material and not solid silver? Would that be correct? Beautiful find!!

     
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  11. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Now that's a good use for a shell.
     
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Beautiful composition, another gorgeous piece of kyra art!
    The stand itself actually reminds me of another type of keris hilt stand:

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    The hilt is from my collection, a small and delicately carved 19th century East Madurese Pulasir hilt (with dragon!), made for a woman's keris. What looks like an eye on the 'head' of the hilt is actually a rose, which stands for hospitality.
    You can sacrifice another dilapidated crucifix for your Balinese beauty.:playful:
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    You're right, it is silver around a resin core. The resin is probably natural resin, from a tree.
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    She knows my love of keris' too well, that cunning but sweet kyra.:joyful:
     
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  15. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    :kiss::kiss::kiss: Both for the compliment and for showing this so delicate rose dragon! Fits you at most!;)
    On the hunt for a damaged crucifix to sacrifice:vamp::joyful:
    Waiting to receive Bayu, he may end on a Lalique stopper (modern plastic for “encre noire”!) as a base :hilarious:
     
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  16. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Bayu just arrived!
    He is a tall boy:woot:
    He had some green spots I'm getting rid of, for the moment he stands on a Lalique Encre Noire plastic stopper (has a wood look!), I still has to find an appropriate stick to present him a little higher, and add some weight to the stand:happy:
    @Any Jewelry thank you for all your useful insights on him!:kiss:
    He has a hole in one hand, as if he was holding something...
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Balinese keris are huge, so they need big hilts.:)
    Looks good.:happy:
    A mirror, you can see one on my gilt brass Bayu in the photo in post #2, second hilt from the right. Those mirrors are quite loose, so most Bayu hilts have lost their mirror.
    My clumsy butterfingers managed to propel the mirror in the photo to parts unknown.:shame: I haven't been able to find it yet.:arghh:
     
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  18. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Ahh, a mirror! Now I see on your Bayu.:woot:
    I hope your missing one will reappear one day!:)
    As usual, THANK YOU:kiss::kiss:
     
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  19. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I'd give him a flower to hold since his mirror has gone walkabout.
     
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  20. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    I’ll seek in my in “case of” “junk drawer” if I can find something appropriate or... FUN...:joyful:
     
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